Frankly Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Side question, what's the favored strap/links for 1301s? For outside of actual 3-gun use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcs352 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Your "dear husband" needs to start doing that professionally.....looks gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgats Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Because of my built, 18.5 " bbls balance well for me. Thinking of getting the 1301 Tactical which has the 18.5"bbl. Aside from the bbl profile, Is there any major difference between the 1301 comp and 1301 Tactical?,( loading port,safeties, bo;t release,etc) Btw, since in Canada we can only load a max of 5 rnds, so the mag ext is not something to consider. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidcoltoutlaw Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Will the Beretta 1301 with the 21 inch barrel function with the Nordic plus 9 ? Thanks Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawg308 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Because of my built, 18.5 " bbls balance well for me. Thinking of getting the 1301 Tactical which has the 18.5"bbl. Aside from the bbl profile, Is there any major difference between the 1301 comp and 1301 Tactical?,( loading port,safeties, bo;t release,etc) Btw, since in Canada we can only load a max of 5 rnds, so the mag ext is not something to consider. thanks The 1301 Tactical does not have a vent rib barrel with brass mid bead and fiber optic front sight post. It has a ghost ring sight type setup. I'm sure that's fine if your job is kicking in doors and clearing houses, but it's not what I want on a 3-gun shotgun. Some people use and love them, so YMMV. Will the Beretta 1301 with the 21 inch barrel function with the Nordic plus 9 ? Thanks Keith I don't see why it wouldn't. I run a +7 on my 21" just fine. I guess my only concern would be with a +9 if you'd have enough spring pressure on the last round or two to properly feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhighlan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I run a plus 8 with no problem, spring pressure is great and the first quads in the tube are smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Update on carrier/lifter spring modification.....I tested my gun with 3.5 coils cut....I had a single failure to feed....it was the first round from the tube after starting with one in the chamber. The ammo type was AA #8 1 oz 2.75 dram.......the rnd was pinched on the corner as if it were misaligned when going into the chamber ......so I am not sure that the failure is directly related to the spring lightining...more testing to follow......it was one failure out of 60 rnds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustbuster1 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 For you guys who run a Nordic tube, do you find the barrel clamp to be a necessary evil? I know this shotgun is my 3-gun shotgun and will get bumped around, but the Nordic barrel clamp has marred the heck out of my barrel and tube. I plan on sending the gun off to C-Rums to get some work done, but when it comes back I plan on cerakoting the receiver, barrel, and tube. If the barrel clamp isn't necessary, then I'm going to scrap it so it doesn't mess up the new cerakote when it's done. I run a clamp to keep things tight w the long tube.Ive seen pros run it and not run it.I don't worry about cosmetics on my 1301,am busy trying to keep it loaded while focusing on the stages. Once you get it back from c rums and see all that metal gone, u may not wanna do anything to it except using it and cleaning it..just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I have tested slugs wo a clamp....same POI with or without on my 1301. Only shot one match wo clamp....worked fine....running another this weekend then FNH......like dustbuster...have seen people do it both ways....I used to one run to adjust POI for slugs on an 11-87.....the slippery one shown a page or so back...just test if u switch configurations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Shot a match today - no failures of any kind - so for now the cut lifter spring will remain - FNH is two days away for me.....so we will see how it works then! Also - for anyone interested - I posted the last of my mods- cut trigger guard to aid in weakhand quads: Another of the sanded and feathered forearm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremekramer Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Dave is 73 the spring you are trimming? http://www.brownells.com/schematics/Beretta-/1301-Competition-Trigger-sid1061.aspx#s57155sid1061 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited September 16, 2014 by xtremekramer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegrassfarmer Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Beretta 1301 Comp.jpg OK, shot this with clipped carrier spring (3 coils) today, all kinds of ammo and slugs. No problems. Seems, perception maybe, slightly easier to load. Full expected complete failure, because I was having failure to lift with Snap Caps at home. Range test is always better. Next I will try clipping one more off. Interesting mechanism, that carrier and spring. Fulcrum type lever and spring helps up and down, some polishing of the cup that the spring rod sits in might help as well. I'm interested in how this works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremekramer Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Dave is down 3.5 coils now and seems to be working well for him Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited September 16, 2014 by xtremekramer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yes it is #73....keep in mind....I have only put a few hundred through it.....end of Wednesday I will have completed FNH...so I will update then.....hopefully it will work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremekramer Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 For a $5 spring, it's probably can't hurt to experiment. Noticeable difference though in the force required to push the lifter up? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I should clarify.........because that spring has an open and ground end......it only counts as 1/2 an active coil.....so if you are counting the number of coils...my bad......it is the engineer in me......I was counting active coils........ is actually physically 4 coils cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yes there is noticeable difference...every little bit helps....that being said reliability is still #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegrassfarmer Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) that being said reliability is still #1 I couldn't agree more. Edited September 16, 2014 by Thegrassfarmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Ok...quick update after FNH match...1301 ran flawless....... over a hundred rounds no malfunctions at all.....I may even grind another 1/2 a coil to test ...scope on my rifle is a different post.....but from now on i sight in at every big match to check zero...otherwise i will zero........each long range stage like at this match.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremekramer Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cutting off the open end, counting the coils from the end of the open end to the next coil down at the same place, you are cutting off 4 coils? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Here is my picture of three coils cut. I don't have the same feeling that Dave has about the improvement of loading. It can be a "feel" thing. The spring is to push the carrier down after the bolt pushes the shell into the chamber. It could probably be cut more, but the angle through which it operates is more oblique than a Benelli, and you have to go out pretty far on the Beretta carrier compared to a Benelli carrier to push the carrier down to get the shell to the magazine. I think it helps a bit. The best benefit for me has been the rails smoothed down to pretty much what Dave put up. I call that the whale vagina mod. It looks ok on the Beretta, but grotesque on a Benelli, where it isn't really needed as much. Also, smoothing the shell catch and bolt release as mentioned by a few. I'm at 4 coils now but out of commission for a while. I have been pushing the gun faster and faster trying to get it to fail. As Dave pointed out, it's been real reliable, despite all we are doing to mess it up. Outstanding design and engineering on this gun! I would redesign the receiver. Machine down the loading port and elongate the section that meets the forend in more of a swoop shape, so that we are not weakening the mass holding the mag tube and barrel. But I am not them. Beretta is not stupid and I bet that retooling would significantly increase the cost of this model. I am still extremely happy with this gun. I think it is the best for the game we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afletcher1965 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm trying to find the specs on the Front sight and rib width for a 1301 Comp. I'd like to see if there are other options for sights. Any ideas where I'd find this info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm trying to find the specs on the Front sight and rib width for a 1301 Comp. I'd like to see if there are other options for sights. Any ideas where I'd find this info? The HiViz Tricomp FO comes with a half dozen different screws. One of them fits the 1301 - I didn't measure the threads on the one that fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Here ya go. Rib is 8mm(~9/32") at muzzle end. Try Hi-Viz. That's a High Viz Sparq on there, I think. The magnets work as well. I carry one as a backup. It will say for Beretta on it. 3/56 thread if I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Updated pic for me. Staying with brush surface on loading port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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