ChuckS Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Lately, I have seen Classic targets on clam shells and Max Traps that were a bit stingy on the A-zone after activation. I have added a picture below. What would you tell the setup crew is the minimum distance from the top of the scoring target to the top of the covering no-shoot target? The target should not be considered disappearing when it (or the no-shoot)* comes to rest after activation. Later, Chuck * the setup could be a clam shell where both the no-shoot and target move or a Max Trap, where the no-shoot drops and returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactiger Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Unless at least 25% of the A zone remains visible, it's a disappearing target. See Appendix B2. Your example illustrates a disappearing target. According to the drawing in B2, at least 4 3/8 inches of A zone must be visible above the no shoot. Also, your illustration is from the top of the target to the top of the no shoot, leaving some C zone in there. It's the amount of A that is visible that counts. Troy Edited July 10, 2013 by mactiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Unless at least 25% of the A zone remains visible, it's a disappearing target. See Appendix B2. The example shown is a disappearing target. Troy Troy, Thanks, I get that. What I am asking is what do I tell the setup crew to read off their tape measure when they are setting up the target? I just want to check my math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Appendix B-2 gives you those numbers. 4 3/8" from the top, 1 27/32" from the side, 3 13/32" from the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactiger Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Scott put it up there, and I was editing my post as well. Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Actually, I would tell the setup guys that the distance from the top of the scoring target to the top of the no-shoot is at least 5.6". ETA: 5 & 9/16" on the good old American tape measure... Edited July 10, 2013 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I agree. The numbers in B2 are from the top of the A-Zone. Add another 2.5cm (.98") for the C-Zone, and 0.5cm (.20") for the non scoring border, and your just under 5.6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I agree. The numbers in B2 are from the top of the A-Zone. Add another 2.5cm (.98") for the C-Zone, and 0.5cm (.20") for the non scoring border, and your just under 5.6" Thanks, I think this is why the a-zone seems to be shrinking. People are reading the 4 3/8" as from the top of the target while in reality, the drawing in appendix B is the A-zone only. Later, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I agree, the appendix shows just the A zone so it is easy for someone to interpret that as the entire target. Maybe for future books draw in the C zone also? For the Metric they do not show a minimum dimension diagram, but as a rectangle the math is pretty easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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