mrgreentie Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Add Blue Force Gear to the ever growing list of sponsors! http://www.blueforcegear.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLucky Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 New rule book allows for dication on 50% the stages at a national match! So it does take a step closer to IDPA.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) New rule book allows for dication on 50% the stages at a national match! So it does take a step closer to IDPA.... To be clear, a stage can be declared a "narrative" by simply requiring the first mag in your rifle must be downloaded to 10 rounds but the rest of the mags and course of fire is to division capacity and shoot'em as you see'em. . The only non-narrative stage is one where the stage description is something to the effect of "On start signal engage targets as they become visible". So USCA's definition of narratives is equivalent to stage directives in other shooting leagues. I'm pretty certain there will be no IDPA-style stages at Nats. I'll be honest, I don't recall but one USCA club that even comes close to dictating an entire course of fire, and that's a "tactical" club. That's the whole reasons narratives were created, so guys that like to dress up and play army can dictate courses of fire at local matches at one club and guys that want to think for themselves and shoot their own game plan can at other matches at other clubs. USCA is kinda like the United States, if you dont like one states laws you can move to a state that you feel best aligns with your values. If you don't like playing dress-up don't shoot USCA Club X. If you like more run and gun shoot USCA Club Y. Nationals will be a test of the competitors shooting ability not the competitors ability to remember directions, step-by-step. Edited August 13, 2013 by mrgreentie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLucky Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 New rule book allows for dication on 50% the stages at a national match! So it does take a step closer to IDPA.... To be clear, a stage can be declared a "narrative" by simply requiring the first mag in your rifle must be downloaded to 10 rounds but the rest of the mags and course of fire is to division capacity and shoot'em as you see'em. . The only non-narrative stage is one where the stage description is something to the effect of "On start signal engage targets as they become visible". So USCA's definition of narratives is equivalent to stage directives in other shooting leagues. I'm pretty certain there will be no IDPA-style stages at Nats. I'll be honest, I don't recall but one USCA club that even comes close to dictating an entire course of fire, and that's a "tactical" club. That's the whole reasons narratives were created, so guys that like to dress up and play army can dictate courses of fire at local matches at one club and guys that want to think for themselves and shoot their own game plan can at other matches at other clubs. USCA is kinda like the United States, if you dont like one states laws you can move to a state that feel best aligns with your values. If you don't like playing dress-up don't shoot USCA Club X. If you like more run and gun shoot USCA Club Y. Nationals will be a test of the competitors shooting ability not the competitors ability to remember directions, step-by-step. Glad to hear that.. I am looking forward to the match.. the high round count looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 New rule book allows for dication on 50% the stages at a national match! So it does take a step closer to IDPA.... To be clear, a stage can be declared a "narrative" by simply requiring the first mag in your rifle must be downloaded to 10 rounds but the rest of the mags and course of fire is to division capacity and shoot'em as you see'em. . The only non-narrative stage is one where the stage description is something to the effect of "On start signal engage targets as they become visible". So USCA's definition of narratives is equivalent to stage directives in other shooting leagues. I'm pretty certain there will be no IDPA-style stages at Nats. I'll be honest, I don't recall but one USCA club that even comes close to dictating an entire course of fire, and that's a "tactical" club. That's the whole reasons narratives were created, so guys that like to dress up and play army can dictate courses of fire at local matches at one club and guys that want to think for themselves and shoot their own game plan can at other matches at other clubs. USCA is kinda like the United States, if you dont like one states laws you can move to a state that feel best aligns with your values. If you don't like playing dress-up don't shoot USCA Club X. If you like more run and gun shoot USCA Club Y. Nationals will be a test of the competitors shooting ability not the competitors ability to remember directions, step-by-step. Glad to hear that.. I am looking forward to the match.. the high round count looks awesome. Stage 1 is a hose fest for sure. Minimum 30 rounds pistol, 31 rifle and tons of steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Also, we're shooting out a max of 320yds right now. There is talk of shooting farther but we're thinking of holding back going out any farther. We plan on releasing stage details and diagrams 30-days before the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Add Spike's Tactical to the list of guns on the table. http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Add Kel-Tec to the list of sponsors. They will be throwing 3 KSGs on the prize table!!! Edited August 22, 2013 by mrgreentie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 It's September and the last month before the entry fee for the 2013 Noveske Rifleworks USCA National Championship increases. $175 through September 30, 2013 ($150 for Juniors)$200 on or after October 1, 2013 ($175 for Juniors)Application date is based on postmark. http://www.uscarbineassociation.com/2013-championship.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Adams Arms has stepped up and thrown guns on the prize table. Adams Arms will be the official sponsor of Open DIvision. Lots of guns starting to pile on the prize table. Here is a subset of sponsors so far: Title Sponsor : Noveske Rifleworks Division Sponsors: Heavy Division - Knights Armament Tac Ops Division - Magpul Irons Division - Blueforce Gear MilLe Division - Daniel Defense Open DIvision- Adams Arms Stage Sponsors : Warne Scope Mounts Kel-Tec Associate Sponsors : Spikes Tactical Nightforce Contributing Sponsor : Wilson Combat Viking Tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted September 20, 2013 Author Share Posted September 20, 2013 2 stages designed. Stage 1: 60-rounds total. Minimum 31 rifle and 29 pistol. Stage 2: 53-rounds. Minimum 34 rifle, 15 pistol and 4 rifle or pistol. Don't forget, match fee increases October 1st! http://www.uscarbineassociation.com/2013-championship.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniUzi Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Needs more cowbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Is the match full? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Is the match full? Spots still available. Match fee increases Oct. 1st! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Just booked my flights and rental car. Can't wait to shoot some ATAS 2 Gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Just booked my flights and rental car. Can't wait to shoot some ATAS 2 Gun! Heh, I remember those days in 2010... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) Official round counts for the match are in: Rifle: 247 rounds minimum Pistol: 105 rounds minimum Total rounds: 352 66 pieces of steel *The counts above are minimum round counts. Given the possibility of make-up shots and potential stage re-shoots you may want to consider bringing 1.25x or 1.5x the minimum round counts outlined above. Edited September 27, 2013 by mrgreentie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springy Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Looking thru the rules to see where a 1x optic fits - aimpoints and prismatics - and it looks like they fit in the mil spec division. However the rule states "fixed magnification", not 1x. To me "fixed" would be aimpoints and acogs in 4x and 6x, and a few other scopes. It sorta looks like a 1x will be up against magnified scopes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Looking thru the rules to see where a 1x optic fits - aimpoints and prismatics - and it looks like they fit in the mil spec division. However the rule states "fixed magnification", not 1x. To me "fixed" would be aimpoints and acogs in 4x and 6x, and a few other scopes. It sorta looks like a 1x will be up against magnified scopes? That's how I read it too. Got an ACOG coming, offset irons and a big fat comp for my Mil Spec rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Looking thru the rules to see where a 1x optic fits - aimpoints and prismatics - and it looks like they fit in the mil spec division. However the rule states "fixed magnification", not 1x. To me "fixed" would be aimpoints and acogs in 4x and 6x, and a few other scopes. It sorta looks like a 1x will be up against magnified scopes? As long as it is fixed it an be any magnification 1x, 3x, etc. i.e No magnification variability built into the optic. This match will have shots out to 320 yds. BUT, that is on man sized steel. Running a 4x fixed may be an advantage on that stage but will be a detriment on a few of the short/fast stages...unless you're running offset irons AND can shoot Alphas at match speed with those irons. We'll see if Jesse can pull it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Samson Manufacturing is now a sponsor. They shipped a box of awesome goodies for the prize table! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Looking thru the rules to see where a 1x optic fits - aimpoints and prismatics - and it looks like they fit in the mil spec division. However the rule states "fixed magnification", not 1x. To me "fixed" would be aimpoints and acogs in 4x and 6x, and a few other scopes. It sorta looks like a 1x will be up against magnified scopes? As long as it is fixed it an be any magnification 1x, 3x, etc. i.e No magnification variability built into the optic. This match will have shots out to 320 yds. BUT, that is on man sized steel. Running a 4x fixed may be an advantage on that stage but will be a detriment on a few of the short/fast stages...unless you're running offset irons AND can shoot Alphas at match speed with those irons. We'll see if Jesse can pull it off How deep are the bays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreentie Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Looking thru the rules to see where a 1x optic fits - aimpoints and prismatics - and it looks like they fit in the mil spec division. However the rule states "fixed magnification", not 1x. To me "fixed" would be aimpoints and acogs in 4x and 6x, and a few other scopes. It sorta looks like a 1x will be up against magnified scopes? As long as it is fixed it an be any magnification 1x, 3x, etc. i.e No magnification variability built into the optic. This match will have shots out to 320 yds. BUT, that is on man sized steel. Running a 4x fixed may be an advantage on that stage but will be a detriment on a few of the short/fast stages...unless you're running offset irons AND can shoot Alphas at match speed with those irons. We'll see if Jesse can pull it off How deep are the bays? Most are shallow 15-30yds. There are a few longer distance bays but they are the exception. Also, there will be a low-light stage and irons don't do well in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Also, there will be a low-light stage and irons don't do well in the dark. Edited October 10, 2013 by Jesse Tischauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM2B Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I bet the fastest overall raw time doesnt win the match...! Keep that in mind while shooting this match. Charlie =+1 second and Delta as I recall + 3 seconds! Not to mention FTN's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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