MarkCO Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) WARNING: There is NO manufacturer's published data for E3 in the 9mm. Using E3 in 9mm might be a bad idea. If you decide to experiment with E3 in 9mm, you are taking a risk and assume all associated liability. My 147 Zero JHP load is 3.3 grains of E3 for a velocity of 920 fps and 135 PF. My popper calibration load is a 124 Berry's over 3.3 grains of E3 for a velocity of 990 fps and 123 PF (17 challenges and 17 poppers down on 17 shots). 3.0 grains of E3 under the 147 gets 860 fps for a 126 PF. 3.0 grains under the 124 Berrys gets 885 fps for a 110 PF. I keep the powder charge in E3 between 3.0 and 3.8 grains, which is conservative based on the data I have collected. I am narrowing in on a load for 125 HAPs and 135 Bayous...maybe a few months I will be done. Edited May 12, 2013 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 3.5 grains, WSP, 1.18" OAL with 124 grain x-treme plated bullet gets me ~132 PF out of a 6" bbl. Same load in a 5" bbl was ~129 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebg3 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I've used a little over 55lbs of e3 so far. Loading 4.5grs with 180gr jhp/fmj in .40(1.20") and 4.0-4.2 gr with 121gr-125gr jacketed bullets in 9mm. The powder is bulky enough that a double charge will spill over or be very obvious. A friend was using it to make minor in .40 with 180gr bullets and was having ignition problems because of light charges. Like was stated above, keep the charge above 3.0gr and you will be good to go. Any of my loads can be used with small pistol primers but I mostly use small rifle. It can be a little smokey with some combinations but all fast powders I've tried can be. As for price, when buying in bulk you should be able to get it for $10/lb. I don't think I've seen any published data for e3 other than for shotgun. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Is it temp sensitive? Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I have Chrono data from 41F to 76F and I have seen no statistically significant differences. I have not had the time or desire to chrono in 100F heat yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAflyboy Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Looking at that info I found BE86.. Could this be Brian Enos 86? Seemed like a good powder too. Going to have to try some new things I guess. That is another thing I really like about reloading. Hearing about other powders, and trying them out. Power Pistol was known as Bullseye 86 when it was a oem powder for the ammunition companies. No. Power Pistol is Bullseye 84. Bullseye 86 is not Power Pistol. I stand corrected. Is there a bullseye 86? Yes, there is a BE-86... brand-new powder from Alliant, and no load data on their site for it yet. Also haven't seen it show up at Powder Valley, either, so it's probably still in the pipeline. Here's a (little) information on it: http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/be-86.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calan Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 This seems to be the most e3 info available for 9mm. Any other information you guys would like to share on e3 loads for 9mm or 38sp? I've even heard of a local shooter testing it in 380 loads with good results, but that seems to be pushing the envelope a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) It is one of my favorite powers in 9mm. For the 124/125 grain moly or plated bullets you can load 3.3/3.5 for minor or 4.2 for major, for the 147 moly's 2.8 to 3.3 is a very soft and accurate load in all my guns. It gets cleaner as you get into the mid to upper load range and does well with lead and moly. I try to keep all of my loads at 1.135 to 1.45 OAL and have been very pleased with the results using e3. Edited August 27, 2013 by bowenbuilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calan Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) It is one of my favorite powers in 9mm. For the 124/125 grain moly or plated bullets you can load 3.3/3.5 for minor or 4.2 for major, for the 147 moly's 2.8 to 3.3 is a very soft and accurate load in all my guns. It gets cleaner as you get into the mid to upper load range and does well with lead and moly. I try to keep all of my loads at 1.135 to 1.45 OAL and have been very pleased with the results using e3. Good info. Do you happen to have any data for 115gr HP bullets? I'm not a competitive shooter; just looking for a clean, accurate load with light recoil. Edited August 26, 2013 by calan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Anyone use it in .45ACP?? If so, what sort of load - especially for a LSWC 200gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_Sweeney Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Anyone use it in .45ACP?? If so, what sort of load - especially for a LSWC 200gr. Not sure if you're still interested in this powder but I have used 3lbs of it so far. 2.25 OAL 230gr xtreme plated - 3.6gr gets me 733 FPS and 168.59 PF. Unreactive to temp as far as I've seen in mid 90's down to low 60's with not much variation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyLahey Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I haven't tried E3 but the other shotgun Alliant powders work great for me. American select and green dot do well in my guns. I'll give E3 a go next time I get powder if it's available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p4ck37p1mp Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) 40 Berrys Flat Nose Plated 180 Alliant E3 3.9 CCI SP Nickel Plated 500 45 Berrys Flat Nose Plated 230 Alliant E3 6.7 CCI SP Brass 100 45 Berrys Flat Nose Plated 230 Alliant E3 4.7 Federal LPM Brass 100 My .40 & .45 loads with E3, works well. Accurate. Edited June 7, 2015 by p4ck37p1mp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Where can I get some E3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lneel Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) I used E3 extensively when Nic and I were shooting Limited. 4.5gr with a 180gr MG JHP and 4.3gr with Precision 185gr Moly's. Worked great and was very clean at those pressures. Lee Edited June 7, 2015 by lneel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 40 Berrys Flat Nose Plated 180 Alliant E3 3.9 CCI SP Nickel Plated 500 45 Berrys Flat Nose Plated 230 Alliant E3 6.7 CCI SP Brass 100 45 Berrys Flat Nose Plated 230 Alliant E3 4.7 Federal LPM Brass 100 My .40 & .45 loads with E3, works well. Accurate. You sure about that 6.7 load? Not saying it would probably not work but damn! I bet that is a 200+ PF load! I get Major with 3.9 using coated and 4.2 with plated 230's. Just checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Where can I get some E3? I've had luck finding it online. 3rd Generation Shooting Supply is where I've bought from in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalJesus Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I just ordered 12 pounds of E3 yesterday. biggunoutdoors had 54 one pounders in stock. have to email them or call and talk to them. Ordered two times from them so far and great customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Necro post but figured I'd toss in my info from a Tanfo Stock 2 @ 50* Bullet Weight Powder OAL BBI 125 E3 1.145 @ 3.6 @ 3.8 1 1040 1099 2 1056 1088 3 1048 1082 4 1070 1107 5 1057 1095 6 1087 7 1068 8 1049 9 1079 10 1042 1060 1094 Avg. 132.45 136.78 PF 15.87 9.68 SD 47 25 ES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregJ Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I've got 16# to burn up. I really like it, and may just keep using it instead of WST or W231. One advantage I found out, the flakes are too big to make it through the flash hole. This is handy if you miss a primer, you dont get powder everywhere. I will post some data tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkill Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I've used e3 for the last 6 months for .40 major 4.3 gr 180 gr blue bullet 169 pf. Shoots really soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnkill Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 5/5/2013 at 9:03 PM, SpeedQuest said: I noticed this is a flake powder. Will this cause problems in a Dillon XL650 with the Automatic Powder Measure System and the Auto Powder Check? No, I use it for .40 major in my edge and it meters just fine in my 650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewski Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, jnkill said: No, I use it for .40 major in my edge and it meters just fine in my 650 Agreed - runs fine in my 650. I loves me some e3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountbkr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I just started using it last week but it runs fine through my 550 measureSent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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