bowenbuilt Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I am having some very good results with it and was wondering if anyone here has tried it yet. It is the most accurate load I have ever had in 4 of my 9mm guns. I have found it to be very soft, clean burning and super accurate. I am currently loading 4 grains of it with a 124 grn. bullet. I have not found the down side yet. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I just saw some posts on it very recently. I was wondering too since I have seen that available in my area several times. There were some good comments on it and some were saying the same things you said. I may have to pick up some now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It is a very good shotgun powder but tends to be expensive compared to other powders designed for similar loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I use it for plated and JHP bullets. I tried it with moly and there was too much smoke. Anything with an encapsulated base and you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm not familiar with E3, who makes/sells it ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Alliant. http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/e3.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Thanks, appreciate the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 E3 seems pretty reasonably priced on PV, other than they don't have any in stock at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 E3 seems pretty reasonably priced on PV, other than they don't have any in stock at the moment. Wideners has it in 4#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRevolutionIX Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) A local guy that I shoot with uses it in his 9mm and 40 loads. Ive ran a few of his 9 loads through my production gun and it is very soft. I liked the feel so much i bought a pound of it but i havent had the time to work up any loads. Edited May 5, 2013 by MRevolutionIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Starting load info for 115 or 124 gr fmj? Alliant doesn't 9mm info for this powder at least that I could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 OP said 4 grains with 124 grain bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Looking at that info I found BE86.. Could this be Brian Enos 86? Seemed like a good powder too. Going to have to try some new things I guess. That is another thing I really like about reloading. Hearing about other powders, and trying them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee loo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Looking at that info I found BE86.. Could this be Brian Enos 86? Seemed like a good powder too. Going to have to try some new things I guess. That is another thing I really like about reloading. Hearing about other powders, and trying them out. Power Pistol was known as Bullseye 86 when it was a oem powder for the ammunition companies. Remember this years ago from a American Handgunner magazine article when it was released to reloaders. Power pistol is great for full power loads. Excellent reputation among bullseye shooters for accuracy. To snappy for our game. Here's some more info for power pistol: From the Encyclopedia of Bullseye Pistol website's reloading page... Encyclopedia of Bullseye Pistol A Load for the 9mm Service Pistol Here is a 9mm load that David Sams has been using for testing Beretta 92 barrels and his completed guns that has been proven sub 1.5" groups at 50 yds is as follows: * Starline brass * 115gr Hornady FMJ-RN bullet * 6.0 - 6.2gr Alliant Power Pistol powder * Rem #5 1/2 SP primers * O.A.L. -- 1.120" no-crimp Out of a barrel test fixture using Bar-Sto barrels groups have consistently run between .975" to 1.5" averaging about 1". Through David's completed 92F's, he claims that they have been running 1.3" - 1.5" as a reminder these are hand-loaded. For a 9mm, about as good as you can get. Edited May 5, 2013 by dee loo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It is a very good shotgun powder but tends to be expensive compared to other powders designed for similar loads. I don't know how you do your math, but E3, per round, is the cheapest powder I have ever used, at close to 2000 rounds a pound with low density and good metering, I really like it. I am on my second 8# jug after trying a few 1# canisters. I am getting very good accuracy, especially with Hornady HAPs. I have shot 8 different bullet types with it and all did well. As compared to other powders in 9mm in the 125 to 135 PF range, I find it softer and more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedQuest Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I noticed this is a flake powder. Will this cause problems in a Dillon XL650 with the Automatic Powder Measure System and the Auto Powder Check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 How about .45ACP and how does it compare to Clays ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I noticed this is a flake powder. Will this cause problems in a Dillon XL650 with the Automatic Powder Measure System and the Auto Powder Check? That is what I load on. Better than Clays. My variation is about 0.1 grains. After loading 2K rounds, there is definitely a little powder to clean up, but no more than with the ball powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 How about .45ACP and how does it compare to Clays ??? If you want to shoot steel, but I would not go major PF with it. It is a little faster and a little hotter than Clays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyrlik Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Looking at that info I found BE86.. Could this be Brian Enos 86? Seemed like a good powder too. Going to have to try some new things I guess. That is another thing I really like about reloading. Hearing about other powders, and trying them out. Power Pistol was known as Bullseye 86 when it was a oem powder for the ammunition companies. No. Power Pistol is Bullseye 84. Bullseye 86 is not Power Pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee loo Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) Looking at that info I found BE86.. Could this be Brian Enos 86? Seemed like a good powder too. Going to have to try some new things I guess. That is another thing I really like about reloading. Hearing about other powders, and trying them out. Power Pistol was known as Bullseye 86 when it was a oem powder for the ammunition companies. No. Power Pistol is Bullseye 84. Bullseye 86 is not Power Pistol. I stand corrected. Is there a bullseye 86? Going to try E3 next time I order powder. Using solo 1000 right now. Edited May 11, 2013 by dee loo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 I used 3.8 grains as a starting load and worked up. I am using a Berry 124 HBFN and Missouri Bullets 125 cast Cones at 1.10 OAL with mixed brass and CCI primers. My MG's should be in next week and will try this same load with these. This is softest, most accurate powder I have used in 9mm. I have not done any experimenting with it in .40 or .45 ACP yet but I understand that others are using it in these calibers. Be careful as a little goes a long way. At 4 grns the cases fully sealed in the chamber and the primers just started to look like a factory load. I did not try more than 4 grns because it is shooting ragged holes at 25 yards and cycles the gun perfectly. 4 grns is approaching 1200 FPS in my 5.25 and I see no need to go any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Just loaded 2k, used less than 1#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmiller1 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Just loaded 2k, used less than 1#. You are loading less than 3.5 gr per round? That is a small volume powder for sure! What bullet & velocity are you getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 So MarkCO you are loading about 3.5 to 3.8 grns? I did not see your load on here yet, If you would please let me know what yours consist of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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