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10 minutes ago, mark97se said:

My first guess is that they might need to go back for repair. That is not a common issue. If there is a shell in the chamber, the hammer should be cocked and it should drop when you pull the trigger. When this issues happens, you need to look in the bolt handle slot and see if the hammer is dropped already...sounds like the hammer is following the bolt home. More common would be the action not going fully into battery and when you drop the hammer, it hits the back of the firing pin, but doesn't go off...but you don't seem to be describing that.

Makes sense. I'll let him know to pay attention to it. I didn't even think to look at the hammer this morning. Besides sending it back in, is there something that can be done with simple factory parts swap?

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11 minutes ago, 021411 said:

Makes sense. I'll let him know to pay attention to it. I didn't even think to look at the hammer this morning. Besides sending it back in, is there something that can be done with simple factory parts swap?

It is *possible* that the disconnector and/or the hammer is out of spec, but that would just be a guess at this point. Definitely need to check things out more before the cause can be narrowed down.

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Mine had a hammer that would hang on a disconnector burr.  After examining the phenomenon with trigger assembly in my hands, then clearancing where it was rubbing, it never happened again.  I was only able to make it do that when working by hand but a slightly greater interference is all it would take.

 

I may have posted photos at some point but this thread is now impossibly long so may take some ready.  Maybe search by my user name in this thread.  

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My M3K has been fortunate enough to run 100% out of the box. With that said I recently replaced everything I could replace with Benelli parts and MOA parts. The main thing was the heavy bolt carrier setup from MOA. It cycled 1145’s no problems. Tried 980’s for grins and nope. 

Took the M3K out again today and continued to run like a top with 1180 2.75 dram shells. It’s not my primary shotgun but it’s good to know I can depend on it. 

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Hello all, I have m3k from some time. Today I noticed that pin in bolt Carrier is completly loose. I saw on many movies on YouTube that a hammer and punch is needed to take it out or put in back. My pin came out with hand shaking, and I can insert with one finger. Is is normal? (sorry for language, English is not my native language)fBWvy4q_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&f

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Mine is not particularly tight either, requires gently finger pressure to remove. Doesn't seem to cause any problems.

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On 5/3/2019 at 3:41 PM, 021411 said:

First  I apologize for not reading all 130+ pages..

 

I took two M3K's out this morning to pattern and I noticed my friend's shotgun was having very random dead triggers. Wasn't a click but rather felt like it never re-cocked and couldn't press on the trigger. I'm guessing the bolt short stroked? I consider his M3K broken in as it has been to a multiple range sessions and matches already. His shotgun also has MOA's reduced recoil spring and can cycle 1145 FPS and faster shells just fine. I spoke to him and he said he also experienced the dead trigger in matches.

Ammo issue or is there something else?

My M3000 has developed this problem also. It has a Benelli extractor, Nordic tube extension and I replaced the recoil spring.

 

http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=351150

 

I have a call into MOA Precision but I understand they are very busy and not taking calls.

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The "dead" trigger is not so much an issue with not cycling but an issue with the bolt not going fully into battery, and the hammer fall just drives all the way into battery not does not set off the primer.  As far as I can tell this is an issue with the out of round shells and the energy behind the bolt to drive them into battery. For me, this is solved running 3dram loads and specifically NOT Federal or other 6 star crimp shells which are often slightly not round, specially for cheap shells. I find that running 3dram GunClub ammo has completely made this go away for me.

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10.4 thanks

 

I'm going to try the MOA Precision bolt kit and heavier loads together.

 

Thanks for the reply and the ammo suggestion. It's just weird to me that it ran crap ammo reliably for over a year, and now this 

 

The shotgun portion of 3gun is challenging enough for me. I don't need malfunctions too.

Edited by chauncey

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Ran a match yesterday with some hotter ammo (1300 fps and up) and had 1 failure in probably 50-60 rounds (and early in the match).

 

My MOA Precision order just shipped.

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I bought an M3K "Freedom Series" last week and ran it at a 3GN match this past Sunday. No problems whatsoever with Winchester Super X 7.5 (1255fps?) and a few Centurion 2.75" slugs. Will probably send it in for MOA upgrades if I do more matches, but out of the box, it was pretty impressive. Didn't feel undergunned in the slightest, didn't have any complaints about the control sizes, and it pointed surprisingly well for how little time I had on it. Stock isn't my favorite, but that may be unfamiliarity.

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I ran a match last weekend. 4-5 failures with one 1300 fps quality shotshell, in the 1st stage.

 

Switched to a different load then 1 failure per stage in each of the next 3 stages.

 

I did some more polishing on the extractor and barrel groove, then installed this:

https://moaprecisionllc.com/product/moa-precision-heavy-bolt-system/

 

I ran 50 rounds of junk Winchester 7-1/2's, and 10 rounds of the hotter ammo that FTF'd last weekend.

 

So far, so good, no failures.

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