sperman Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Agreed. Kinda wish there was a way to move this thread down to multigun shotguns. The 391 is better suited to dedicated clay bird shooting. BTW, Mr Kelley, it looks like the flared opening on your loading port is biased more to the support hand side. If that is what I am seeing, is that working well? most I have seen have been symmetrical. Tom I moved this thread to the 3-gun forum. Since the OP was asking a question about 3-gun, I'm not sure why it was in the clays forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 What magazine?Shooting Illustrated. Haven't seen the magazine article, but got one for my son for Christmas. Thanks for the tip on this one as my first impression is very positive. Looks and operates much the same as my M2. The recoil spring is different, but mostly the same otherwise. Loads very easy. Forearm is longer yet trimmer than my M2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) I'm having trouble locating an M3000 but a local shop has a 3500 in stock for $499. It's in Realtree but I can live with that if the 3500 is as viable as the 3000 seems to be. The counter guy doesn't know when or if they'll get a 3000. With my recent issue buying an unsuitable shotgun I'm hesitant. Anyone know if the 3500 is similiar enough to the 3000 to make this purchase worth it? Edited to add; It's a 26 inch barrel. Edited December 26, 2013 by EricS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 In looking over the M3500 I can see no difference other than it is a 3.5" gun. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporthand Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 My wife just got me a 3000 for Christmas (I love that woman). I hope to use it for 3 gun matches here in the peoples republic of Illinois. She picked up the 28" barrel; Should I exchange it for the 26? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I asked a gunsmith friend about the difference between the 3000 and 3500. This is what he told me. The M3000 is a 2.75"/3" chamber gun, the M3500 is a 3.5" gun with longer receiver and stronger springs (the M3000 should cycle better with standard target loads.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Thanks Mr. Kelley and Sperman. I'm going take the plunge and give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporthand Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 My wife just got me a 3000 for Christmas (I love that woman). I hope to use it for 3 gun matches here in the peoples republic of Illinois. She picked up the 28" barrel; Should I exchange it for the 26? Anyone have an opinion?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Fatboy Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 No just kept it a 28" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amccallister Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 supporthand- quote button isn't working for me, but... I'd exchange it if it wasn't too much of a hassle, but you're really not hurting yourself with a long barrel, especially if you plan on hanging a 10+ round magazine tube on it (which I recommend). My Versamax has a 12 round tube on it and it's longer than a 28" barrel would be anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporthand Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Thanks for the input. I'll call the store, see what is in stock and weigh the hassle factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) Found the M3000 article on the news stand a couple of days ago. Thank you Pat for a great write up and for putting in the rounds for a very comprehensive eval. I am looking for an inexpensive auto loader for my daughter and I see a 24" M3000 in her future. Edited December 26, 2013 by co-exprs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 In looking over the M3500 I can see no difference other than it is a 3.5" gun. Go for it! Bought it today and started a new thread on it. Thank you Mister Kelley!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Found the M3000 article on the news stand a couple of days ago. Thank you Pat for a great write up and for putting in the rounds for a very comprehensive eval. I am looking for an inexpensive auto loader for my daughter and I see a 24" M3000 in her future. Thank you, thank you! If'n you guys don't buy the magazine...I can't afford to buy, try and write about these items that interest my fellow 3-Gunners! In looking over the M3500 I can see no difference other than it is a 3.5" gun. Go for it! Bought it today and started a new thread on it. Thank you Mister Kelley!! Once broken-in it should run as well as its 3" brother! Enjoy mister. Merry Christmas to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Might give it a try if Mag tube nuts become avaliable were they are a plug and play system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Threading the Nova extension on is not that hard of a job and I am not sure there is a way to make a "plug and play" without taking off the 1/4" or so that extends past the threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Phil, is that the MXT or EXT tube from Nordic? I don't know what the difference between the two is besides price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openclassterror Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The MXT is the modular tube. The nut is a separate piece, allowing you to change tube lengths without buying another complete assembly. The EXT is a one-piece unit as I recall. If you mess up the MXT nut while modifying, it is much less expensive to replace, as all components can be purchased separately. Unfortunately, the factory nut is not long enough to re-machine to fit the Stoeger unless you cut the end off the Stoeger mag tube. That is probably why Nordic says they don't intend to make a nut for our shotguns. It has to be a whole new longer part, not just a different version of the one they already make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Phil, is that the MXT or EXT tube from Nordic? I don't know what the difference between the two is besides price. The MXT is what I put on the Stoeger I have. It has an indention area for the Nordic barrel clamp and I believe I put a plus 5 on mine and then recently I added an extension from Shooter's Source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricS Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Thanks guys. I ordered an MXT +5 with a barrel band, sling swivel attachment and generic 12 gauge follower last night. It shipped today. Fast work by Nordic. If I can I'll post a pic when I get it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Did I miss something? Does the Nova Nordic Nut need to be modified to fit this gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Did I miss something? Does the Nova Nordic Nut need to be modified to fit this gun? Some are reporting that, but I haven't had an issue with just screwing them on. One of the issues some are having is the factory tube having a long unthreaded section that needs to be cut back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co-exprs Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Sounds like a pretty simple adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 What type of tool, process, or technique is required to cut back the tube on the Stoeger 3000? I have a 28 inch Stoeger 3000 with wood stock I picked up from DICK's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Dremel with cut off wheel. Hacksaw. Belt sander. File. Go slow and "approach perfection" no matter the method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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