snake32 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I have some very sad news, according to what i know vithavouri went bankrupt and has been up for sale now in 5 weeks but no buyers so the factory is shutting down, for you in the USA its a very expensive powder, but for me its 2,5 times as cheap as hodgon and Norma powders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OperationHitFactor Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Source? You can't just go around saying stuff like that it's not good for my blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 (edited) They're part of Lapua, I'd have trouble believing they went under. Wow! this information must be outdated. Hmmm... here's where my information came from: http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/vihtavuori/ Edited April 5, 2013 by anachronism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Source? You can't just go around saying stuff like that it's not good for my blood pressure. The internet article that started all the discussion : http://yle.fi/uutiset/government_to_rescue_last_gunpowder_factory/6462398 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old506 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 There was a link on here the other day saying that they are closing a plant down in 2014 but nothing about going bankrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake32 Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 sorry this came from a guy that lives over there. i dont know him. i got this off of a reloading forum. i preffer to not say where. i hope its not true but i thought i would see if anyone else had heard anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklab2011 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 The powder producing portion of the plant producing vithavouri is owned by a French company Eurenco. They are the ones selling the plant. Lapua is only involved thru Nammo which has a small presence at the plant handling defense products. Could not find any info about bankruptcy. Best guess is they will be moving production from the aging facility to another location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikamarj Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 AFAIK the plant in Vihtavuori, Finland is the only one in Eurenco corporation producing VV-powders. Eurenco's other plants produce other powders such as Bofors and various military propellants. Finnish military demand for powders has fallen causing negative revenues for VV plant, therefore Eurenco is either shutting it down or selling it. Eurenco has not announced anything about the future availability of VV powders -- it has just told that there is some inventory left to sell this year, but nothing about the future. Nammo Lapua Ltd has confirmed that it's negoating with Eurenco about the purchase of Vihtavuori powder plant. http://yle.fi/uutiset/nammo_vahvisti_neuvottelevansa_vihtavuoren_ruutitehtaan_ostosta/6535931 (article in Finnish, sorry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcambre Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 From Bing Translator Firearms and military equipment for the manufacturing of the Nammo Lapua Oy vihtavuori powder factory has begun negotiations to purchase. Nammo Lapua CEO Raimo Helasmäki, confirmed to the Bbc in the North to the country on Wednesday. According to Helasmäen it is hoped that the matter would proceed as quickly as possible. Negotiations were officially launched on Wednesday, and Helasmäen will take a couple of weeks before the results get more information. Vihtavuori powder factory, a French owner Eurenco announced on Tuesday it would initiate negotiations vihtavuori factory. Eurenco vihtavuori, Managing Director of Ari Makkonen, according to Nammo Lapua is a positive news story that is interested in the purchase of a factory, because of the situation at the factory has been very uncertain. Nammo Lapua-Buyer is not implausible, Makkonen says. Vihtavuori gunpowder factory employs 120 people. The first issue told United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) I am bringing this one back to the top, I had heard locally that the Vihtavuori Finland plant had been sold to Lapua, here was one article from the same site referred to above. http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://yle.fi/haku/default_fi.jsp%3Fg1.qry%3DVihtavuoren%26g1.mod%3Dylepalvelunavigator%253A%253Auutiset%253A%253Afilter%2528ylepalvelu%253A%2527uutiset%2527%2529 (first link) Article confirms that Nammolle (parent of Lapua) has agreed in principle to purchase the plant and all that remains is the due diligence. That seems pretty positive as long as the plant isn't built on a nuclear waste dump... :-) Edited September 20, 2013 by RDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Let's all hope this VV deal goes through. Expensive, but REALLY GOOD POWDER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortis03 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) The last couple of times Ive gone into my local reloading store and asked about n320, the guy behind the counter has said I better find a replacement, citing the bankruptcy thing. However, it looks like this might be older info because I found this: http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2013/09/nammo-plans-to-acquire-vihtavuori-powder-plant-in-finland/ Anyone know anything about this? Edit: I stopped reading just short of RDA's post before I added my post. Probably referring to the same article, but his link doesn't work for me. Edited October 13, 2013 by Mortis03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 The last couple of times Ive gone into my local reloading store and asked about n320, the guy behind the counter has said I better find a replacement, citing the bankruptcy thing. However, it looks like this might be older info because I found this: http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2013/09/nammo-plans-to-acquire-vihtavuori-powder-plant-in-finland/ Anyone know anything about this? Edit: I stopped reading just short of RDA's post before I added my post. Probably referring to the same article, but his link doesn't work for me. The link I posted still worked for me but in case others had issues, here is the story translated via Google: EURENCO: Vihtavuori-trade agreement mostly Vihtavuori gunpowder factory sales of French EURENCO from Nammolle seems to be close. French EURENCO says that the terms of the deal have already been agreed. Eurenco factory Vihtavuori. EURENCO and Nammo have negotiated Vihtavuori trade since March. - The possible elements of an agreement and the principles have been agreed. Negotiations are continuing with the appropriate diligence, EURENCO of gunpowder shops division director Pontus Westrup says EURENCO's release. Vihtavuori gunpowder factory in Finland is the only powder company. EURENCO is presented vaihtoehdoikseen either the sale or closure of the plant completely. Defense Minister Carl Haglund, in turn, has kept the domestic ruudintuotantoa the importance of security of supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortis03 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 orignially the link took me to a google translate page. I was able to find that article. Sounds good news but it might be awhile till we see it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 shooter Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think that if they would start shipping powder over here they would make plenty of money. We can't buy it if they don't ship it. It just doesn't make any sense. And I hate the thought of trying to find a replacement because anything else is a distant second best. Or perhaps the competition doesn't like VV powder because they can't match it? More questions than answers at this point. Hopefully it will get back in the supply line and maybe even a decent price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyK Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Until someone else starts paying for my powder VV is a distant second just due to cost.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 All that being said, Powder Valley just had a bunch of N320, I was able to buy all I wanted, it was in stock for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortis03 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 good to hear! and as far as being too expensive... for me its a couple bucks more but I get more rounds loaded per pound than some alternatives so it works out for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The reloading market is so small and so competitive here in the US that a company needs military and ammo manufacturer's orders to stay in business. Any smart company would at the very least buy their KNOWLEDGE and bring it out in their own powder line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstandley Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Has anybody else noticed that Hodgdon's website has a link to Vihtavuori..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Joe Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Anyone heard any further updates on this? Has the deal gone through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Anyone heard any further updates on this? Has the deal gone through? Yes, the deal went through. The U.S. rep for VV has said that the new owner has not decided if they will offer powder for sale commercially.....bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickd1 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 its very hard to get here some times and when you do its old powder,my local dealer just got a new order in so i got 4 tubes and the date on it is 2011 (n350) oh and it double the price of other powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortis03 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 anyone have any news on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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