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Recently purchased some Speer Deepcurl bullets in 38 cal 158g (only thing the store had in stock) But I can't find any load data at all ! Speer part # is 4215 (which used to be Gold Dot hollow points?) The Speer website gives no loading data, no OAL or powder callouts? I have Win 231 & AA#5 and would like to use one or the other? There is load data for the #4215 Gold Dots in the Old Speer manual, but I'm not confident that info is correct for #4215 Deepcurl bullets? Hope someone can help !!

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Same data for deep curl as for gold dot. Had this issue answered by Speer when they first started changing bullet types without telling anyone. I would order gold dot and get deep curl.

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