Padraig Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Does anyone sell hydra-Shock bullets as a component? I am using as my carry ammo Federal 200 grain hrdra-shock however they are hard to find and I am getting low. Would like the ability to hand load them. I have plenty of 200gr cast swc for practice but no hydr-shock type bullets. Edited March 13, 2013 by Padraig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'd suggest sticking to factory ammo in carry or self/home defense applications. Many people warn about the use of handloads in these situations from a legal standpoint if you should ever have to shoot someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop414 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 +1 to above. All my classes recommended keep the factory box so you have lot number if you ever need it, and shoot it when you buy a new box for carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Back to your original question, I don't believe Federal offers any bullets as components. There are plenty of other manufacturers who do offer their bullets as components. Hornady comes to mind first, Speers Gold Dot is also really good. Seriously, a good quality hollowpoint is all you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 Thanks for answeing my question, Anachonism. As far as the legal aspects of factory ammo vs reloads, I think that while it is a factor, it is over rated. If this ammo shortage continues you can bet more and more shooters will be carrying home rolled. While I have my favorite factory ammo, I will carry it. When/if I can not get any I will carry what works. Then there are us New Yorkers that don't want the state tracking our ammo purchases under the Safe NY Act. Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Consider taking up bullet casting. That should really help minimize your profile to the nanny state. It's a pain in the beginning, but as you progress and learn, it gets much, much simpler. Plus you can even cast your own hollowpoints! I do understand what the others were saying, but sometimes a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do. My best wishes to you, and everybody in the occupied states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I used to cast bullets quite a few years ago. Fun but time consuming. Still have the molds and as I am soon retiring I may have to dig them up. I can't remember what all I have but I know there is a 4 gang 452 flat nose 200 grain that always shot well. Worked good on bowling pins. Casting was fun but lubing and sizing was a pita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I hated sizing, felt it was the devils invention. One day I realized I was at the "put up or shut up" point in casting. Either it was time to stop, or it was time to go all in. I went all in and bought a Star bullet sizer. It was expensive, but it was worth it. I'm now at the point where I can make practically any bullet I want. I buy custom moulds as cheap insurance that I get what I want, or at least what I ask for anyway. PM me your address, I send you some to play with, it's the least I can do for a guy in occupied America. I'm assuming you like 45s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I have never seen hydrashock bullets as components. xtp's are generally available however, and make excellent SD bullets. I think speer sells gold dots as well, but I haven't tried them. After hours of research on slow days, I don't lose any sleep over whether my SD rounds are handloads or factory (although I do generally carry factory rounds, except sometimes when camping and I'm planning to shoot a little for practice too). The most important lesson to be learned about handloading (from the daniel bias case) is that if your girlfriend commits suicide with your handloads, you should probably pump a couple factory rounds into her from close range, just to be on the safe side regarding gunshot-residue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) I am going to piggyback on your post hope it is okay seems to fit with your topic. I just picked up a bucket of pulled Fed. 230 gr HST's and thru my research I have found that they do not sell these bullets as components. I would like to load these up for my paw-n-law but I do not have his gun available for measurements and I just sold my .45. I am guessing they will be similar to the XTP for data. Does anyone have a factory 230 HST that they can measure OAL? If not I am thinking 1.230 with say 3.8gr of Clays under it. How does this sound? He lives a long ways away and I will not be able to crono until after I load them all, so I am hoping to make it reliable the first try. Federal's data label says they are pushing them around 890-900 fps I don't think 3.8 will be even close to that should I push it up? He is taking a self defense class and will be shooting them out of a short Kimber, they do not need to make any PF floor. Thanks, Edited March 22, 2013 by Hello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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