DieselMcBadass Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Ill be shooting my glock 19, which ive modified with the vickers parts, because the stock parts sucked. Looks like I may have moved myself out of ssp by doing it though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuentesd99 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) Yes you have moved yourself to ESP because they are not Glock original parts. BUT, you can try to shoot SSP if you want, they NEVER check anyway. That last sentence IS bad advice if you get caught. Edited February 26, 2013 by fuentesd99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselMcBadass Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yes you have moved yourself to ESP because they are not Glock original parts. BUT, you can try to shoot SSP if you want, they NEVER check anyway. I dont really mind what i shoot in, ill be competing to get better with my carry gun and have fun, just dont want to look like a total loser when im up against heavy, sao guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlamphere Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yep, I think so. They may be OK, but being external and not Glock parts, you will move to ESP. If they are identical to the Glock part, you might make the argument. P. 20 NOTE: The slide releases and magazine releases that are standard on the Glock 34 and 35 models are available as a factory option on all Glocks available in the USA. Because of this, that type of slide release and magazine release are legal on all Glocks for SSP. EXCLUDED Modifications (NON-Inclusive list): 1. Externally visible modifications other than grips or sights. 2. Robar style grip reduction. 3. Add-on magazine well opening. 4. Guide rods made of a material different from the factory part it replaces. 5. Seattle Slug Grip Plug and similar weighted products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic_jon Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I would say to take a look at the rules on ESP permitted modifications where they say: 9. Extended magazine release (button may not be oversize in diameter or protrude more than .2” out from the frame). as well as in the Permitted modifications for all divisions: "NOTE: The slide releases and magazine releases that are standard on the Glock 34 and 35 models are available as a factory option on all Glocks available in the USA. Because of this, that type of slide release and magazine release are legal on all Glocks for SSP." Past that I would say to get on the IDPA forum and ask for an official ruling. That way you can take that ruling with you to matches and it may also get included in the tiger team deliberations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amccallister Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Definitely not SSP legal, but you will be fine in ESP. I only care about the overall results anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselMcBadass Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 sounds good, i would use my cz in ssp but may be selling it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Since you can buy a Larry Vickers Glock now with his mods. Can you legally use his mag release in SSP now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 8.2.1 A, does Vickers produce more than 2,000 of them per year? Quick search online seems to support they(lipsey) made more like 5k, so good there. 8.2.1.2 C. if you want to follow the line of thinking that Vickers is the manufacturer then you can only swap parts between guns made by Vickers. Not Vickers to Glock. Want to stay in SSP with a truly legal gun running Vickers mag release, slide release then you should be running a Vickers gun from the get go, not a Glock manufactured gun with (your reasoning not mine) a different manufacturer's (Vickers/Lipsey/Tangodown or whoever you want to attribute as having made a whole and complete gun they manufactured) parts. Edited December 26, 2017 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGGlock Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 IMO Vickers is not a manufacturer of guns but a modifier, Glock is the manufacturerand I say you are stuck in ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, RePete said: IMO Vickers is not a manufacturer of guns but a modifier, Glock is the manufacturerand I say you are stuck in ESP. A third party, Lipsey, takes a pile of specific Glock parts that aren't normally seen together and a small pile of Vickers/Tango Down stuff and puts it all together. To me that's assembly, not manufacturing. But I don't make the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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