dskinsler83 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 My Gen 3 G35 load of 4.5gr N320 w/ the Xtreme 180 plated in my Lone Wolf Barrel is WAY SLOW!!!! Like 850fps OAL IS 1.137" crimp measures at .420. Any ideas?? Any other powders to try?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu46and2 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I need at least 5.0 grains, same crimp as you're using, 1.22 OAL out of my 5 inch SVI AET barrel to make major with 180 plated bullets. Here were my test velocities: 5.0 grains of VVN320 - 920, 931, 934, 929, 927 5.1 grains of VVN320 - 928, 940, 925, 937, 938 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 I need at least 5.0 grains, same crimp as you're using, 1.22 OAL out of my 5 inch SVI AET barrel to make major with 180 plated bullets. Here were my test velocities: 5.0 grains of VVN320 - 920, 931, 934, 929, 927 5.1 grains of VVN320 - 928, 940, 925, 937, 938 Yeah I know bout a 2011 I loaded 5gr to make major then but I'm loading for a GLOCK as the title and OP state. Can't do long loads so thanks anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Have you tried it with the factory barrel yet? My load was 4.7gr/N320 under a 180gr Frontier Plated bullet and my PF was 176000, with the factory barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 No havnt tried that yet ill be going between the xtreme and hard cast so that is the reason for lone wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu46and2 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I'm not suggesting you load any longer, just trying to give you a couple of data points on plated bullets and N320. Common sense would dictate that you load 10 at 4.6, 10 at 4.7 and 10 at 4.8 and try them and see if you get the velocities that you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I'm not suggesting you load any longer, just trying to give you a couple of data points on plated bullets and N320. Common sense would dictate that you load 10 at 4.6, 10 at 4.7 and 10 at 4.8 and try them and see if you get the velocities that you're looking for. Correct on common sense but also common sense would say if 4.5gr is 850 and once can usually gain 20fps per .1gr then I'd have to go up to 5gr for 950fps and I'm thinking that's a lil hot for the GLOCK load considering I used 5gr at 1.180 for my custom S_I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I'm thinking my chrono was off I need to check again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2kcrewcab Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I would have to agree that something seems off on your chrono results. I load Berry's Plated 180's for IDPA in ESP, and I'm running 3.5 gr of N320 making 134PF out of a 5" XD. Previous chrono results for me had 3.6 gr at 138PF, and 3.8 gr at 148PF. All OALs were 1.125". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croomrider Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Correct on common sense but also common sense would say if 4.5gr is 850 and once can usually gain 20fps per .1gr then I'd have to go up to 5gr for 950fps and I'm thinking that's a lil hot for the GLOCK load considering I used 5gr at 1.180 for my custom S_I I think your estimate of 20fps per 1/10gr is a little low. In my experience depending on powder, I've seen 4-5 PF for each 1/10gr increase. You may only need a charge of 4.8gr to make major and a 2/10gr decrease for a shorter OAL in a different gun doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Each barrel is different depending on the tolerances. Even if it takes a little more powder in your barrel to make a given velocity, that doesn't mean the pressure is going to be greatly increased compared to a barrel that makes the same velocity with less powder. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliveb Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 You just might have a pretty slow barrel. I too can't get major out of my G35 stock barrel unless I load 5.2g of N320 (COL 1.140 and 180g plated frontiers) - that gives me a PF of about 175. In fact, that load made me nervous enough to switch to N340 - of which I need 5.7g to make major with a Col of 1.135 - and even that is a lot! I checked my chrono and the data is equal to another different make chrono, so that's sorted. How about running your rounds through another gun over the chrono for comparison? Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biloxi23 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Daniel, in both my Glock 35 and Glock 24 (before I switched to STI) my Lone Wolf barrels were signficantly slower than the factory. By carefully selecting magazines and loading prgressively longer, UI was able to increase my OAL to 1.141 to 1.143, With the bullet I use (Precision 185 moly) this necessitated having Lone Wolf long chamber the stainless barrels. I was using WSF at 4.6 grains.Not too far off from my STI loads with the same bullet and N-320. I did work on some loads for WSF and Winchester FMJ 180's that I worked up to a tenth at a time with the Lone Wolf barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfred Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yes, best thing to do is check your chrono first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze1a Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 4.5gr of N320 with a 180gr won't give me M velocities out of my G35. Bump it up a few tenths and you should be good to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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