thompsoncustom Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Had a quick question for people that compete in produce in IDPA and/or USPSA. Has anyone tired lightening there comp hammer? If I under stand it right a lighter hammer is faster and snappier so it requires less lb's hammer spring to set off the same primers. Now in IDPA SSP there is no external modifications but is that with the hammer down? If so would removing weight from the bottom of the hammer impact the speed? is it overall weight or just the weight towards the top of the hammer. Also could probably drill from the bottom of the hammer up toward the top without being visible. Anyone done anything like this? Thoughts are welcome. Thanks Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hollowing it out sounds like a great idea! I've been toying with bobbing the race hammer on my TS, but I'm too chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningsquirrels Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Cant see it being legal for production and the like, but for limited, sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 I guess that depends on if the weight needs to be removed from the top of the hammer to be effective or if just reducing the over all mass of the hammer will work? If you were to drill up the center like this you would not be able to see it from the outside You could also remove some mass by drilling hole in the side of the hammer also shouldn't be visible. I've never reduced a hammer before so I guess my biggest question is does it matter where the weight is removed? If it has to be removed from the top then ya none of this will work for production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The further from the axis of rotation the better, the hole right next to the hammer pin would be hard to notice. If get the guts to do mine, I'll be cutting the spur off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Ya the second one would be in combo with the first just to reduce overall mass. I don't think there is a way to get any higher and still be production legal. What about this? This amuses that hammer down is how the gun is few for production legal. So in this one you have a narrow hollowing on the inside and holes on both sides of the hammer to reduce overall weight. Also added drilling the top out from the firing pin side back that way with the hammer down at least under my comp sights it is not visible. This would also reduce mass on the top the only thing I worry about with someone like this is the hammer breaking/cracking. Edited February 23, 2013 by thompsoncustom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) I think all that drilling would reduce the rotational mass significantly, but I'm not sure it's within the spirit of Production... Then again G34s and Shadows are not exactly service pistols either. Maybe that's why I'm in Limited! Edited February 23, 2013 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 In USPSA Production hammer mods would be considered an external modification. Remember in USPSA Production, the rules now say if not specially allowed it is NOT okay to make a the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 Good to know I guess I will just leave it alone then. I don't mind doing everything that is aloud but I have to plan to try to cheat the rules. I don't compete at this time but plain on starting when the season starts this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would think just installing the non comp hammer would almost save as much weight as most of those mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) I forgot I even had my stock hammer and I think your right it would be better to do these mods to the stock hammer as there would be less weight in the end. I had some time on my hands today and decided to mod my stock hammer tho it's not going to be legal in Stock anything it should prove if a lighter hammer can be used with a lighter hammer spring so I chopped some of the hammer off and took some off the back side of the main beam to make it all flow together a little better then I recut the hooks a little lower than the comp hammer. Sorry for the blurry pic Should be able to cock the hammer into SA with my hand still. Will report after some testing. Edited February 27, 2013 by thompsoncustom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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