Big Guy Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) Site is down again. Edited April 1, 2013 by Big Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Just got the email on the shipping confirmation for my case of 121's. And I just ordered them last Saturday!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDD Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I got my shipping confirmation too. I was getting nervous that I was going to be done shooting for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Same here, I got my email confirmation today, and I ordered on Friday, so now I'm good again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmel Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 OK, so will they take fax and mail in orders or not?? This was posted earlier thread "I got through on the phone asking about my faxed order from Tuesday. The lady on the phone said they are not accepting fax orders and if it came through it probably got tossed. They are only doing orders through the website. That was about 1:30PM" Very confusing Melvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lksyotas Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 OK, so will they take fax and mail in orders or not?? This was posted earlier thread "I got through on the phone asking about my faxed order from Tuesday. The lady on the phone said they are not accepting fax orders and if it came through it probably got tossed. They are only doing orders through the website. That was about 1:30PM" Very confusing Melvin I faxed my MG order last Monday, never got a response but I see that my CC was charged yesterday based on the fax - so up till early last week, it appears as they were still taking faxes. Perhaps now that the new site is somewhat online, they are no longer honoring the faxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old506 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I faxed in an order a week before the website went up and haven't heard anything. I also put in an online order and haven't heard/seen anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Down again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesaAndy Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 It seems some people are having luck with Faxes and even online orders and others are not. It may be just be a stock issue and nothing more. I was able to fax and order online and I was charged for both orders and so far I have 1 tracking number. It looks like there is hope if the product is on the shelf. Yes, the site is down, completely down, none of the inside links are working at all. As far as I can tell they are the ONLY bullet manufacturer with product and the reloading community is hammering them with more than they can handle. I guess it's a good problem to have, maybe it's time to expand... (like a hollowpoint through jello?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old506 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 We could use some more bullet vendors. I noticed that there are more "hobby" loaders going commercial, or at least it seems this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1629 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I sent an order form by snail mail about two weeks ago and they filled it. I was lucky enough to catch their new website up Saturday and ordered another case. Received tracking number and charge to credit card yesterday so it sounds like the second case is on it's way in. Maybe if you try snail mail if they won't accept fax??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowellacsbd Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) post deleted per "Sarge's" request... Edited April 3, 2013 by chowellacsbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Santiago Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Apparently my fax last week WAS accepted and filled. I got a shipping notice yesterday using my old email address, something I didnt include in my fax. I got another notice today for the order I placed online on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 So at what point does someone say hey let's hire more people...? The problem is when the demand dies down you have to let those people go plus you have to train them up in the short term. The rush needs to last long enough to justify that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatrix Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 So at what point does someone say hey let's hire more people...? The problem is when the demand dies down you have to let those people go plus you have to train them up in the short term. The rush needs to last long enough to justify that. Ah! So productivity drops with new hires and costs go up, costs go up paying overtime to everyone and the longer you keep employees working extended hours and more than 5 days a week the more productivity drops and again costs contimue to rise. I don't know what others would call it; but, I'd call it a vicious circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrov Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 So at what point does someone say hey let's hire more people...? For what? They have X amount of forming machines and they are expensive. They can take out a loan for a new machine expand the building etc. But then what? Demand dies down and they are left holding the bag, machine collecting dust and eating their profit with monthly payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bshooter Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I just sent out a snail mail order because I can't get their into their Website. Has that changed or is timing the big issue to get into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Petrov- that makes sense of course. I think what many of us don't understand (at least me) is how much the demand has increased. It hard for us to fathom how much demand is causing backups from ALL the major suppliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowellacsbd Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) post deleted per "Sarge's" request... Edited April 3, 2013 by chowellacsbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrov Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 So at what point does someone say hey let's hire more people...? For what? They have X amount of forming machines and they are expensive. They can take out a loan for a new machine expand the building etc. But then what? Demand dies down and they are left holding the bag, machine collecting dust and eating their profit with monthly payments. Essentially you know nothing of how to grow a business. As demand comes about, you either adapt (expand production/equipment/etc), or fall by the way side to those that are more willing to see the growth of a company, harness new technology to promote themselves, allow for better e-commerce solutions and are willing to invest in their product/service. Im sure it's just a matter of time before new, smaller, projectile manufacturers are established and in full production. "But then what? Demand dies down and they are left holding the bag, machine collecting dust and eating their profit with monthly payments." No, if you're expecting your investment to be sitting idle "collecting dust and eating their profit..." then clearly you haven't thought through your vision of the future of your business. With the advent of 3d printing technologies sitting in the corner waiting for us to adopt, manufactures really need to look towards the future of how business is handled. And to everyone sending out snail mail orders; 1) What are you sending, a blank check? One would think since the site is still down and the only response I get from email is "online tuesday", where are you getting pricing, 2) I would hope that no one on this forum would think sending their cc number via postal service to be a good idea, right... By all means, if someone disagrees with what I stated above, prove me wrong, change my mind. This is an open discussion, and I welcome everyones input. You run a bullet manufacturing company? Do you know for sure that you can afford to pay off those machines? Do you know for sure that the demand will last long enough to pay off those machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrov Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 And I do know about growing a buisness. But my rule #1 is making sure that the machine makes money not loses it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowellacsbd Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) post deleted per "Sarge's" request... Edited April 3, 2013 by chowellacsbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowellacsbd Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) And I do know about growing a buisness. But my rule #1 is making sure that the machine makes money not loses it. And uploading random, arbitrary images of large machinery doesn't relate at all to my original point.... Edited April 3, 2013 by chowellacsbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrov Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 And I do know about growing a buisness. But my rule #1 is making sure that the machine makes money not loses it. And uploading random, arbitrary images of large machinery doesn't relate at all to my original point. That is not a random piece of machinery, that is my copper wire grinder. Neither you or me can predict how the bullet market will fair and neither of us have access to Montana Golds books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowellacsbd Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) post deleted per "Sarge's" request... Edited April 3, 2013 by chowellacsbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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