toothguy Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) With a firm, consistent, neutral grip the sights will return consistently. You can't really control the recoil. Edited April 16, 2013 by toothguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kita Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 With a firm, consistent, neutral grip the sights will return consistently. You can't really control the recoil. I've seen Bob Vogel control the recoil quite effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Bob Vogel has a monster strength grip and I would bet he applies the force in a neutral balanced way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kita Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Bob Vogel has a monster strength grip and I would bet he applies the force in a neutral balanced way. I have no idea what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonovanM Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 With a firm, consistent, neutral grip the sights will return consistently. You can't really control the recoil. If you handcuff someone to something, are you controlling them because they can't go anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Bob Vogel has a monster strength grip and I would bet he applies the force in a neutral balanced way. This make sense to me toothguy and if Bob Vogel can close the #3, he really is a monster! That thing is no joke, I'm about a finger's width away from closing it strong hand, but it feels like a mile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonovanM Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 Bob Vogel has a monster strength grip and I would bet he applies the force in a neutral balanced way. This make sense to me toothguy and if Bob Vogel can close the #3, he really is a monster! That thing is no joke, I'm about a finger's width away from closing it strong hand, but it feels like a mile... Have you tried closing it from a deep set? Apparently that's the only way Bob can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Have you tried closing it from a deep set? Apparently that's the only way Bob can. What's a deep set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Bob Vogel has a monster strength grip and I would bet he applies the force in a neutral balanced way. I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm still working on consistently bringing the sights back on the exact same spot where I started, and at speed. I think mine is a grip issue, but that's another topic. It was for me, or more specifically a grip neutrality issue. Word. Neutrality, especially in the grip and arms, is key. Learn to remember your grip as one, dead still, perfectly neutral feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Have you tried closing it from a deep set? Apparently that's the only way Bob can. What's a deep set? Yea, can you elaborate? I can close a #2.5 a few times in a row, but don't have a #3 to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonovanM Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 If you compress the grippers most of the way with your other hand then finish the close with the hand you want to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If you compress the grippers most of the way with your other hand then finish the close with the hand you want to use. Ah, So "deep set"= cheating.... I get it now. Lol, JK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If you compress the grippers most of the way with your other hand then finish the close with the hand you want to use. Maybe its a hand size thing, but the close is the hard part for me, I'll try it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kita Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 If you compress the grippers most of the way with your other hand then finish the close with the hand you want to use. Maybe its a hand size thing, but the close is the hard part for me, I'll try it tonight. You know what they say about small hands...small feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) You know what they say about small hands...small feet. My point was that my hands are big enough to not have to pre-compress the gripper, but I know where your mind is Kita Don't let the picture fool you... Edited April 17, 2013 by kneelingatlas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kita Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You know what they say about small hands...small feet. My point was that my hands are big enough to not have to pre-compress the gripper, but I know where your mind is Kita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Have you tried closing it from a deep set? Apparently that's the only way Bob can. I tried the pre setting the gripper with my left hand and it seemed to make it harder??? I guess if you can't get all your fingers around the open gripper it might help, but my strength seems to be starting from the open position. I did try it up side down like you suggested and found it much harder; I baaarely got the #2 closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonovanM Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 You closed the #2 upside down?! Crap, I've got some work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You closed the #2 upside down?! Yes but I couldn't hold it long enough to take a picture and I was afraid my wife would make fun of me if I asked her to take a picture so I could compare dongs with my shooting buddies on the internet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You closed the #2 upside down?! Crap, I've got some work to do. Ive done it... Strangely enough it was easier with my weak hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kita Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You closed the #2 upside down?! Crap, I've got some work to do. Ive done it... Strangely enough it was easier with my weak hand. Most people use their weak hand for gross motor skills and their strong hand for fine motor skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonovanM Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Everything involving operating a firearm is a fine motor skill. Unless you're hitting someone with it. Or doing cartwheels while reviewing some mag pouches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I would argue that cartwheels are a fine motor skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Unless you have short fingers and need to set the gripper, I don't understand the "deep-set" advantage. I've tried it, and not only does it do nothing for me, it may even make it harder to close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimAustinTX Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Everything involving operating a firearm is a fine motor skill. Unless you're hitting someone with it. Or doing cartwheels while reviewing some mag pouches. How are cartwheels a fine motor skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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