Fursniper Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I have a Remington Versa Max tactical model that came with a cylinder choke as the factory standard choke that has some holes cast into the choke. The choke also has some standoff teeth for door breaching. The barrel is not ported in any way. At a recent 3-gun match operating under IMGA rules, I was shooting in "Tactical Ops" and some were saying I should be in open class because of "porting". The barrel has to be ported as I understand it to qualify as true porting to throw one into open class. I sure would appreciate any and all comments to help me clarify what division I need to claim to use this particular set up. I really don't want to have to buy yet another cylinder bore choke if I don't have to. Thanks for any and all advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 While they are rather ineffective, porteds choke will put you in OPEN. Them's the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Put some duct tape over the openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Yeah, same around here as far as the rules. The standard Probore Remington choke is not too expensive, they were only $10 from CDNN at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Put that "breacher" choke into a lathe and take the ports off. It's a cylinder bore anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Ding , ding ding ^^^^ that is the answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Pat, of course it's the answer. I've already done it for a buddy of mine. Oh yeah, he's a much better shooter than I am too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fursniper Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Hummmm, it's kinda looking like I may need a new choke. Could sworn I saw Keith Garcia running the same choke on his Versa max in Tac-Ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Bacus Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 You need a new choke anyway. Cylinder bore is not the answer for three gun. An IC or light mod is a far better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) "While they are rather ineffective, porteds choke will put you in OPEN. Them's the rules. " While open it is! Ineffective they ISN'T!! Shame on you Pat for spreading miss-information! The porting on the end of chokes isn't for "taming" the recoil of the shotgun, what it is for, is to help in the consistent stripping of the wad from the shot collum giving better patterns at longer ranges of which they do VERY WELL!! and to help keep the wad from being blown through the center of the pattern by excess gas at the muzzle. ( Note: no shame on Pat, but I would figure a shotgunner of Pats caliber would have known this...and My one time a year I get to gig him for it is rare!) Edited January 9, 2013 by kurtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer1 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Get yourself the Light Mod or Mod and you will be happier than with that cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fursniper Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Thanks to everyone for the replys and advice. Looks like I'll be getting an IC and LM chokes! Good shooting everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoninTexas Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 "While they are rather ineffective, porteds choke will put you in OPEN. Them's the rules. " While open it is! Ineffective they ISN'T!! Shame on you Pat for spreading miss-information! The porting on the end of chokes isn't for "taming" the recoil of the shotgun, what it is for, is to help in the consistent stripping of the wad from the shot collum giving better patterns at longer ranges of which they do VERY WELL!! and to help keep the wad from being blown through the center of the pattern by excess gas at the muzzle. ( Note: no shame on Pat, but I would figure a shotgunner of Pats caliber would have known this...and My one time a year I get to gig him for it is rare!) Why are ported chokes allowed in open division and not the other divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Why are ported chokes allowed in open division and not the other divisions. USPSA - Shotgun rules Appendix D2 : Compensators - No; Ports: No Multigun rules Appendix A3 references shotgun rules I don't have a copy of the IMA rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoninTexas Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Why are ported chokes allowed in open division and not the other divisions. USPSA - Shotgun rules Appendix D2 : Compensators - No; Ports: No Multigun rules Appendix A3 references shotgun rules I don't have a copy of the IMA rules... This is what I thought "a rule without a reason" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Because they provide an advantage. Just like comps and optics do in Open. Why would they not be in Open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoninTexas Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Because they provide an advantage. Just like comps and optics do in Open. Why would they not be in Open? That is my question. Why are Ported Chokes banned in the other divisions. Is the answer to give more advantage to Open shooters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urikagold Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 My versamax tactical came with a flush mount IC choke and the big ported breecher thingy as well. I ended up buying a couple of chokes, but it should have come with more than the ported one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 That is my question. Why are Ported Chokes banned in the other divisions. Is the answer to give more advantage to Open shooters? They are an advantage to the shooter (open or not), however slight that may be. So to prevent an equipment race the rule has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoninTexas Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thank you GuildSF4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Because they provide an advantage. Just like comps and optics do in Open. Why would they not be in Open? That is my question. Why are Ported Chokes banned in the other divisions. Is the answer to give more advantage to Open shooters? Yeah. To try and even out the equipment in Lim/Tac Ops. No comps/optics on the SG, limited round counts. The ported chokes are treated like a comp. The purpose isn't to provide additional advantage to the Open shooters but to try and allow the Tac Ops guys to compete without having to pay to cut holes in their barrels or buy additional equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 All gas guns are ported, or they wouldn't work. Put them all in Open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 All gas guns are ported, or they wouldn't work. Put them all in Open! Of note then this would apply to all AR10's, AR15's, M1A's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bear Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 All gas guns are ported, or they wouldn't work. Put them all in Open! Smart ass!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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