Franco79 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Im about to clear 2k rounds of loading on my 650. An issue Im seeing now is on the "up stroke" there is much more force needed now then when I first started to load. I noticed that the cases are getting "stuck" on the powder funnel, which is making it hard on the up stroke to remove the powder funnel from the case after it dropped the powder. Any ideas on what to do to fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 This is a known issue and there tons of posts about it on here. Just do a quick search. Some just polish the funnel and others actually take a little metal off the funnel to get smoother operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Lube Cases? Little lube makes it easier on the press, dies, brass and the operator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingJockey Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Here is a link to some tips on the Unique Tek site. Tip # 1 (20 Tips for Powder Measure Accuracy) is the one you want. This is a PDF file, and the bottom of the page has several more links, with pics. This should get you headed in the right direction. You might also check the inside of the funnel and make sure that it isn't just gunked up with lube. Unique Tek tips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Here is a link to some tips on the Unique Tek site. Tip # 1 (20 Tips for Powder Measure Accuracy) is the one you want. This is a PDF file, and the bottom of the page has several more links, with pics. This should get you headed in the right direction. You might also check the inside of the funnel and make sure that it isn't just gunked up with lube. Unique Tek tips I can't get anything to download from there but I don't see haw any of these tips would pertain to a case sticking to the funnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babaganoosh Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'd start by polishing the powder funnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingJockey Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Here is a link to some tips on the Unique Tek site. Tip # 1 (20 Tips for Powder Measure Accuracy) is the one you want. This is a PDF file, and the bottom of the page has several more links, with pics. This should get you headed in the right direction. You might also check the inside of the funnel and make sure that it isn't just gunked up with lube. Unique Tek tips I can't get anything to download from there but I don't see haw any of these tips would pertain to a case sticking to the funnel. Yup, you're right...But there is some links in the bottom of that "tip" that do show how to polish the funnel. I should have posted that. http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=154783 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSkip Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Some really good info. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco79 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 From what Ive read on here, it looks like polishing the funnel neck with 600-800 grit sand paper does the trick. Ill give it try next time I run to the hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy's Toy Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I've had to take off .001 to get mine to work smoothly, but what i've noticed is that the funnel also opens up the neck diameter. Now when my Hornady bullet seater die puts a bullet down, i have to use my finger to re-adjust it, kinda defeats the purpose. Be careful of how much you take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco79 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) So I tried the Polish method. Got alot of the brass crud off the funnel and polished it with a dremel until it was shiny. It worked...... for about the first 150 cases, and now Im back to a hard up stroke again. Do I need actually take some metal off with sand paper or what? Im NOT lubing any of the cases as I have read its not really necesary for pistol brass and I dont want to go through cleaning the cases to get the lube off. Edited November 4, 2012 by Franco79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKing Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) I had your issue. Putting the funnel in my lathe and polishing the lower portion to a mirror finish did not help. A light spritz of Hornady One Shot case lubricant on the cases before loading works wonders. My 550 is glass smooth, even when belling new Starline brass, which is known to exacerbate this issue. Edited November 4, 2012 by NathanKing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco79 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Dont you have to clean off the lube after loading the rounds? I have some RCBS Case Slick Spray Lube, but I always thought you need to clean this stuff off the cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKing Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) I do not remove the small amount of residual lubricant and have not experienced any issues. The One Shot does not foul powder either. The RCBS and Dillon lube goes on much heavier and is much more persistent than the Hornady One Shot. Edited November 4, 2012 by NathanKing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Another advantage to polishing the funnel is that it won't expand the brass quite as much so it will grip the bullet more firmly than previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco79 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Just got off the phone with Dillon. I told them my issue and the first thing he asked me was what method I used to clean my brass. I told him Im using the Stainless Steel pin method. He said that was my problem. The stainless method cleans the brass so damn well on the inside of the brass that it takes ALL the carbon off of it. He said that what the corn cob tumblers dont take off acts like a "lube" and prevents the cases from sticking. I guess this makes sense. He told me the alternative was to rub a little case lube on the outside of the powder funnel every 10 rounds or so. So with everyone else that has had this issue, what are you using to clean your brass? I wonder if this guy was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKing Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Just got off the phone with Dillon. I told them my issue and the first thing he asked me was what method I used to clean my brass. I told him Im using the Stainless Steel pin method. He said that was my problem. The stainless method cleans the brass so damn well on the inside of the brass that it takes ALL the carbon off of it. He said that what the corn cob tumblers dont take off acts like a "lube" and prevents the cases from sticking. I guess this makes sense. He told me the alternative was to rub a little case lube on the outside of the powder funnel every 10 rounds or so. So with everyone else that has had this issue, what are you using to clean your brass? I wonder if this guy was right. You should be able to use brand new (or perfectly clean) brass without trouble. Use the One-Shot lubricant and sticking will be a thing of the past. You will not believe how easy it is to pull that handle and will be wondering why you didn't use it years ago. And no, I don't work for Hornady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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