jmoney Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 got a bunch of components heading my way this week. Went ahead and just ordered dillon 9mm carbide die sets Reloading for VTAC M&P 9mm. I do not shoot in tournaments or anything like that. I mostly practice defensive handgun stuff, so having the ultimate accuracy is not my concern. I reload to save $$. I have read around here and came up with the following load data 124gr MG JHP over 4.0 grains TG 1.115 OAL .376 crimp Any input from guys that use this load/weapon combo would be great. I plan on loading about 30, test firing and if all goes well loading out the rest of a thousand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Search is your friend..... Do a search for 9mm tite group....brought up pages and pages of hits. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76502&st=0&p=894333&hl=9mm%20m&p%20tite&fromsearch=1entry894333 Edited September 25, 2012 by GrumpyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke8401 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) 124gr MG JHPover 4.0 grains TG 1.115 OAL .376 crimp If your goal is to be close to factory 124-125gr defensive loads this seems a little light to me. Of course a reloading manual is the first place to get this info, followed by chrono. 1.115 OAL: I don't recall exactly but my M+P 9 FS needs a shorter OAL than my Glock 34. I would just chamber check the first round befor loading 30. Edited September 25, 2012 by Nuke8401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 124gr MG JHPover 4.0 grains TG 1.115 OAL .376 crimp If your goal is to be close to factory 124-125gr defensive loads this seems a little light to me. Of course a reloading manual is the first place to get this info, followed by chrono. 1.115 OAL: I don't recall exactly but my M+P 9 FS needs a shorter OAL than my Glock 34. I would just chamber check the first round befor loading 30. I believe you are right, 1.135 is what i see for glocks a lot of the time. I went with 1.15 due to the numerous threads I found listing that as good for M&P. My reloading manual shows 4.2 to be getting up into the high range for TG over this bullet. If it is cycling too soft during my test fire I guess I could move it up a bit. thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Jeff, if you're going to try to run these rounds up in velocity, I'd recommend a $70 Chrono - makes life a little safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightFireJay Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Jeff, if you're going to try to run these rounds up in velocity, I'd recommend a $70 Chrono - makes life a little safer. Agreed, otherwise you are operating in the blind. Your load data seems good, although I'd start just a shade lower and work up. I have a KKM barrel so I am able to load out to 1.145" You might try a slightly slower powder, like WSF, to make "full power" loads with a little more margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Jeff, if you're going to try to run these rounds up in velocity, I'd recommend a $70 Chrono - makes life a little safer. Agreed, otherwise you are operating in the blind. Your load data seems good, although I'd start just a shade lower and work up. I have a KKM barrel so I am able to load out to 1.145" You might try a slightly slower powder, like WSF, to make "full power" loads with a little more margin. I have a lot of tg which is why I am using that. Hopefully the start out load works well and will even work for idpa or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I'm using 4. 2 gr of TG with a mg 124gr bullet. loaded to 1. 135 in a Glock 17. makes a PF of around 135. .No pressure signs, nice soft load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikesToShoot Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 got a bunch of components heading my way this week. Went ahead and just ordered dillon 9mm carbide die sets Reloading for VTAC M&P 9mm. I do not shoot in tournaments or anything like that. I mostly practice defensive handgun stuff, so having the ultimate accuracy is not my concern. I reload to save $$. I have read around here and came up with the following load data 124gr MG JHP over 4.0 grains TG 1.115 OAL .376 crimp Any input from guys that use this load/weapon combo would be great. I plan on loading about 30, test firing and if all goes well loading out the rest of a thousand. I know one guy that uses 124gr Berry's and 124gr MG JHP with 3.6gr TG. He shoots very fast and accurate but I have doubts that the MG would make PF. Everybody else I know that want to make PF are using 4.2gr with TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Einstein Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 got a bunch of components heading my way this week. Went ahead and just ordered dillon 9mm carbide die sets Reloading for VTAC M&P 9mm. I do not shoot in tournaments or anything like that. I mostly practice defensive handgun stuff, so having the ultimate accuracy is not my concern. I reload to save $$. I have read around here and came up with the following load data 124gr MG JHP over 4.0 grains TG 1.115 OAL .376 crimp Any input from guys that use this load/weapon combo would be great. I plan on loading about 30, test firing and if all goes well loading out the rest of a thousand. I have about 150 rounds through my M&P9 Pro that I reloaded with a 1.115 OAL and ~ .376 crimp which have ran without a hitch (124gr Barrys RN). It's not nearly enough data to be definitive, but it's a data point for you. I'm going to try and work up a shorter round this weekend just to see, and then maybe get out to the range to test as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Just loaded 25, powder is not varying more than .1 +/- but my oal was a bit wacky going form 1.108 to 1.125, managed to get that issue fixed out and I lined them up from low OAL to high just for my own notes. I will see what happens a little later today. If all goes well I will double check that the OAL is not jumping around so much and load the first 1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Just loaded 25, my oal was going from 1.108 to 1.125, If all goes well I will check the OAL is not jumping around and load the first 1k. Once I get a load where I want it, I load 100 and try them - send 20 through a chrono, and test the others for accuracy and feel. I wouldn't load up a 1,000 of them until I was happy with the 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 very happy with my reloads, even with a varied OAL they are quick, light recoiling and dead on target. Loading 1k tonight to use in as practic and maybe to try a run through IDPA or IPSC if they meet the PF that is. Otherwise I have some trigger control issues I need to work out for long distance shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 I managed to get mine over chrono and they came out around 1050-1100, I'm assuming this is fine or do i need to lower it to be competing in IDPA and IPSC with these rounds? As said above that isn't the primary purpose for my reloads but i don't want to be breaking any rules. Soft-+p loads all feel about the same to me out of this pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I managed to get mine over chrono and they came out around 1050-1100, I'm assuming this is fine or do i need to lower it to be competing in IDPA and IPSC with these rounds? As said above that isn't the primary purpose for my reloads but i don't want to be breaking any rules. Soft-+p loads all feel about the same to me out of this pistol. I think you find better accuracy at 1.135 -1.145. 124g needs to be at 135PF for tighter groups 147g shoot best in the MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 I managed to get mine over chrono and they came out around 1050-1100, I'm assuming this is fine or do i need to lower it to be competing in IDPA and IPSC with these rounds? As said above that isn't the primary purpose for my reloads but i don't want to be breaking any rules. Soft-+p loads all feel about the same to me out of this pistol. I think you find better accuracy at 1.135 -1.145. 124g needs to be at 135PF for tighter groups 147g shoot best in the MP. 1.135 OAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I managed to get mine over chrono and they came out around 1050-1100, I'm assuming this is fine or do i need to lower it to be competing in IDPA and IPSC with these rounds? As said above that isn't the primary purpose for my reloads but i don't want to be breaking any rules. Soft-+p loads all feel about the same to me out of this pistol. I think you find better accuracy at 1.135 -1.145. 124g needs to be at 135PF for tighter groups 147g shoot best in the MP. 1.135 OAL? ?????? You can go longer. Check your barrel and yo'll find the OEM and KKM barrels both will go longer than the mag will hold. If you search you'll find the exact numbers which I and one other posted a few posts ago discussing MP accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 For S&W MP Pro 9 Magazine Max OAL = 1.180 Stock Barrel Max Chamber length for MG 124g CMJ = 1.198 Max Chamber length for MG 124g JHP = 1.153 Max Chamber length for MG 147g CMJ = 1.184 KKM Barrel Max Chamber length for MG 115g JHP = 1.155 Max Chamber length for MG 124g CMJ= 1.228 Max Chamber length for MG 124g JHP = 1.182 Max Chamber length for MG 147g CMJ = 1.220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightFireJay Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 That is interesting... I load at 1.140-1.150 OAL with mixed brass. Montana Gold 124 gr JHP would touch the rifling around 1.155-1.160 with my KKM 40-9 conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoney Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 I will try to bring it out to 1.135, whenever the next batch of fitted barrels gets in stock I will be sending in my slide, Ill have to and what their max oal will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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