Flexmoney Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 http://uspsa.org/classifiers/03-17.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 this one is kinda an oddball. the regular range commands dont work(load and make ready???) shot limited today, 37 points in 6.96 seconds..gives HF of 5.3161. backed up and shot it in limited 10, a point or two more down, slightly faster... i dont know if the increase in speed was worth the two points, as i really cant remember the exact time, i want to say 6.80 though. (edit) Limited 10 HF for that match is 5.4602 so yes the speed was worth the one point loss i really cant see the HHF beign any more than 8.5 or so in limited. im curious to see what the results are... BTW i nearly lost the prop dollar (real dollar bill). got my percentages today...march 15 2005. limited 10 worked out at 84.4121 percent. limited worked out to be 64.8565 percent... I didnt think that there should be that much difference between L10 and Limited scores...maybe so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 In this case, at the clubs I shoot at, we tend to just say "Make Ready". It's nearly the same, you can handle the gun, check your sights, etc, everything but the "load" part. I agree it is awkward but usually by the second shooter, it's old news Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.carden Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 I believe we had that exact situation yesterday at Yolo didn't we Vince, seems as though "make ready" should be the only command necessary in all cases??? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 From the current USPSA rulebook: "8.3.1 "Load and Make Ready" -- This command signifies the start of "the Course of Fire". Under the direct supervision of the Range Officer the competitor must face down range, or in a safe direction as specified by the Range Officier, fit eye and ear protection, and prepare the handgun in accordance with the written stage briefing. {emphasis added} The competitor must then assume the required start position. At this point, the Range Officier will proceed." You still use LAMR, but the shooter places the (in this case) unloaded gun on the table as specified, instead of loading and holstering. HTH, ...Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 ahh it seems the rule meisters have twisted the word Load, and seem to be confused as to what the Ready Condition is..oh well. enough of that, anyone (besides phil terry) shot this stage yet? next month we should have some numbers flex may be intrested in. Limited Limited 10 Open and Production divisions...would try revolver, but to reload just to fire two shots kinda makes me mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Just shot this one today. Production G34 6.66 seconds 36 points (6 A's, 2 C's) 5.4054HF ETA: 5.4054 = 77.5835% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 31somthing points in 9.something seconds. Just shot it today so I don't have my offical results handy. I did jot down that it's a 3.31 HF though. Anyone know what percentage in limited this might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I don't think we have the data yet on this one. Will know next month though when the classifiers are updated. Anybody want to make a guess in the meantime?? Here is my opening bid Open, L and L10 HHF about 10 Production about 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Shot that sunday with Wakataz, was pretty fun. 36 points, 11.77 seconds. Revolver Major Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Damn that makes my time seem real bad Ted That's a pretty good run including that reload in there BTW I think our table was too high! If I was a real whiner I'd go back and measure, haha, not that it makes a difference or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I pulled some 2 second reloads that match. Took an eternity to grab the gun off the table though. Still not used to the heavier frame but that gun is very fun to shoot. Guess moonguns really are evil....... I thought you did pretty good FWIW. This is what your second match and you were pretty far from last place? That's pretty good dude. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 I don't think we have the data yet on this one. Will know next month though when the classifiers are updated.Anybody want to make a guess in the meantime?? Here is my opening bid Open, L and L10 HHF about 10 Production about 9 open about 10 limited and L10 about 9.0 and production about 8.3 or so.. its really gonna blow us all out of the water if uspsa sets it at 14.00 in production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 I don't think we have the data yet on this one. Will know next month though when the classifiers are updated.Anybody want to make a guess in the meantime?? Here is my opening bid Open, L and L10 HHF about 10 Production about 9 Phil, See my edit above, you are too high for Production. 5.4054HF = 77.5835% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Scores are up. 3.31 HF (I think that's what I had) was just over 40% (Limited) Too much internet and not enough practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Checked mine, 53.3% (11.77 seconds, 36 points, no idea how to do hit factor) I could get used to shooting Major. First classifier I've ever shot out of the low forties. And if/when S&W fixes the damn 625, I'll try again...... Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 Odd high hit factors - first of all much lower than I think they should be second L10 is higher than L?? but even more curious Production is higher than both L and L10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Odd high hit factors - first of all much lower than I think they should be second L10 is higher than L?? but even more curious Production is higher than both L and L10 I don't think the HHF for L-10 is higher than Limited, though Productions HHF is higher than L-10's The following order I have for the HHF is from lowest to highest: Revo : Limited 10 : Production : Limited : Open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Whoops! Ran the wrong numbers in my little file. It is Open, Limited, Limited 10 the Production in terms of hit factor. With them about 20% below my earlier estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Whoops!Ran the wrong numbers in my little file. It is Open, Limited, Limited 10 the Production in terms of hit factor. With them about 20% below my earlier estimate. Thought I would just jump in and say something, since I had just finished doing the calculations for this classifier for use in my calculator script... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Do you have to shoot through the port or can you stand up and shoot over the barricade? What have the forementioned shooters done in this regard? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 [qoute]Do you have to shoot through the port or can you stand up and shoot over the barricade? What have the forementioned shooters done in this regard? You would have to be about 7" tall to shoot over the vision barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Oops, just read the fine print about the table being off the ground 30" so the top of the board would be 78" tall...so who's tried to jump on the table, come on, I know one of you has done it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 18, 2005 Author Share Posted March 18, 2005 In the National Classification Course Book, they devote half of the opening page to NOT gaming classifiers. Short version...you aren't supposed to game classifiers. Now, why they put that in this book (that shooters down't read) instead of putting it somewhere else....I don't know. Shooters are governed by the rule book, not "some other publication that they don't even know about". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 In the National Classification Course Book, they devote half of the opening page to NOT gaming classifiers. Short version...you aren't supposed to game classifiers.Now, why they put that in this book (that shooters down't read) instead of putting it somewhere else....I don't know. Shooters are governed by the rule book, not "some other publication that they don't even know about". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another question about gaming this one. Someone want to point out to me where it specifies what the fault lines are (so we know what "engage targets from within fault lines" means)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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