lablover Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Need to load some low recoil rounds for my wife to shoot the .40 Glock. It's the 22c (ported) Being new to pistol reloading (loaded rifle a lot) I'd like to find a safe soft shooting powder for the .40 for her. I was thinking of going with a 165 gr bullet but not sure what type yet. I have some titegroup but am looking for other options. Perfect world the powder would load 9mm as well, but not that important than being the better powder for the .40 I did a search but could not seem to narrow one down. Thanks in advance Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetracer013 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I used 2.2 clays with 180 gr lead. It is ridiculously light, like a puppy's fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hodgdon Clays. Just load up a few using the data Hodgdon provides on their website. http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Titegroup or Solo 1000. Both are good for 9mm and .40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef J Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 X2 for Clays, 2.9gr w/ 185 Precision Moly give me approx 140pf out of my Eagle. I plan to go lower but the 2.9 is still like the aforementioned "puppy fart" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef J Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 4.2 gr of Accurate #2 over a 155gr Precision Moly has also prove to be quite light and at a touch below 130pf. Plus the #2 does make a decent 9mm load, cheap but a bit on the dirty side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBullit Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 3.2 of Clays (straight, not Universal or one of the other flavors) and a 180gr JHP is what I used for USPSA Production division last season, very easy on the hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie j Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Titrgroups good for both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 First think heavy bullet with fast powder. Clays is very soft shooting maybe a bit too soft but if you have any WST around 3.8gr of WST with 185gr Precision Moly is very good Teddy Bear Fart load. 180gr is more common, and just put the same 3.8 with it. 200gr in minor works well also, plus you can see it going to the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anopsis Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I use Titegroup for .40 Minor. In a 4" M&P, a 180 gr Montana Gold JHP over 3.5 gr of Titegroup nets me a 125-130 PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroyyboy Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Joe, I'm a brand new reloader, and tried shooting lead through my 23C. I was using W231, WSP, COAL max: 1.130. When I even approached 4.6-4.8 gr (still .2gr below recommended max with 180gr Jacketed XTP per Hogdon's online database) I got leading, and quite a bit of lead in my ports/slide cuts. I was finally able to get a round that didn't lead the barrel or the ports with 3.8gr W231, WSP, COAL: 1.130. It was very soft shooting and cycled the 23C fine. I've since bought a Lone Wolf Barrel which will allow me to shoot lead and not to have to shoot with the "Open" guys in USPSA and SCSA, if I can ever get a round to fit it. My $.02, but I think many of the replies overlooked the "C" in your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfred Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Solo 1000 and Bear Creek 180gr Solo 1000: 4.5gr BC: 180gr OAL: 1.128 Winchester Small Pistol Primer Works great and flat on my G35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKJD Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Clays is the answer to your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightFireJay Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 My $.02, but I think many of the replies overlooked the "C" in your post. I have to agree. But the problem is, most people don't have a C model. In general, there are several powders that will work well for low recoil .40 and also work well in 9mm. TiteGroup is very flexible, WST is good if you don't expect full power loads. Unique tends to get dirtier at lower pressures. Now, to address your C model, it's about hf way between a no ported gun and one with a full open gun compensator on it. Slower powders with lighter bullets (135gr) will work those guns better, because the extra gas volume works the comp. your ports aren't quite the same, they will primarily only help with muzzle flip, but not the front-to-back recoil in the way a compensator does. So I wouldn't recommend an open gun load. Maybe a "medium" burn rate powder with a 165gr projectile? MY personal favorite mouse fart load is 3.1 gr of TrailBoss under 180 gr Bear Creek Moly coat lead, & 1.150 OAL. It cycles my G23 and M&P Pro 40 reliably and makes 700 fps and 730 fps respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef J Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Just tested, 3gr or WST under at 185 Precision Moly @1.20 (likely too long for your glock) 720fps and really soft, relatively clean too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishpinoy27 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 180 grain/4.0 of n340 or 3.5 of n320....Vihtavouri powders are softer recoil powders.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixondave Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 +1 for WST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellymc Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Joe, I've since bought a Lone Wolf Barrel which will allow me to shoot lead and not to have to shoot with the "Open" guys in USPSA and SCSA, if I can ever get a round to fit it. M It will be better in the long run to just have the barrel chamber open up. I never found that lead bullet to fit mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croomrider Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Clays is the answer to your question. I agree. If the lead causes problems in the ports, shoot jacketed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 solo 1000 or N320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy1199 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 WSF or Herco for .40S&W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 for light loads I liked 155's over WST. My formula was always to load for major pf with a 180 gr bullet, then do nothing to my press or powder adjustments and just load a 155gr bullet and end up with a steel/IDPA load that still worked my gun. usually about 140ish pf. Clays will work best for your application. will also load light to making minor 9mm loads I wouldn ttry it for major pf 40 though. In my guns I never found really accurate clay loads in a 40, but many people do. WST, gets dirty when loaded light, but I shot alot of 155 gr cast bullets. it wasnt so dirty I couldnt get through a normal match. Not much if any published data for 9mm but I shoot alot of it with cast 135gr bullets. Tightgroup is a low density powder, doesnt take up alot of room, and I found my groups started opening up when I reduced the charge down to about 130 pf in .40. Now I have read alot of reports of people beign happy with it though. But generally they were using 180's. Now general rule of thumb is heavier bullets and fast powders, but I dont agree I always liked lighter bullets while staying subsonic for low recoil. The fact that your gun is compensated would lead me to believe you will find the same thing. As the lighter bullet will allow a heavier charge of powder and get more use out of the ports. Without the 9mm in the mix Id go with a 155 grain bullet over enough WST to get the brass to eject reliably.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyrlik Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 4 grains of TG with WSP under a 165gr is awesome in a Glock 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob HESS Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I like Autocomp and 180 MG. especially with your ported barrel. I load mine down to approx 145 PF and it shoots and feels great. It's what I use for steel challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willfully armed Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I run IMR SR 4756 for my light 155gr 10mm loads, I imagine it would be just as soft in .40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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