cruiten Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Thanks Cullen, I figured that to be about 79.6849% for my run which seemed very high for me, hence my question... Dumb question: What does it mean when Sedro "tags" a score? Cor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 If the score is 15% above the top of your classification bracket, it is marked with an A flag, meaning it is not used in the classification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I guess the question I have is why are the HF's running so much higher today than they were seven years ago. I shot it yesterday at a club match and was 7 points down in 11.60 with a revolver. That bested all but 21 of the limited shooters at the nationals in 97. What gives. I'm no blur with a revolver. "C" class and trying to improve. dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I think 2 main reasons. One is it was the Nationals and this is a big time hero or zero stage. Two is because the quality of shooters have GREATLY increased in 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Turns out I shot it in 9.23 w/ 51 points for a HF of 5.5255 in Limited. Mike Voigt was also shooting that day and my score was 73.17% of his, but nationally it appears it'll be at 87.66%. I'll take either, but the HHF is DEFINITELY too low on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I'd better shoot it again before it gets changed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I'd better shoot it again before it gets changed! Too late. I'm still fairly "new" to this game... (IOW, still learnin' the rules) but how does the Open HHF change so dramatically that Lee D.'s score drops over 25%? Whatever change was made affected my score negatively >13%... In Open Division: Lee's HF of 7.3203 = 88.2496% Jake Di Vita's HF of 6.658 = 100% Ron's HF of 5.9977 = 90.6% ??? Since Lee D's classifier scores were changed to accommodate this... he resides at a current overall of 96.892% instead of the 98.1881% that he deserves... Something is not right with this classifier. Someone... please explain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 The HHF for this stage definately changed this month! I had just calculated them all to figure out my "score" and the posted percentage is way lower than I expected. I found September 2004 scores for Limited of: HF = 5.0744 => 80.5077% And in November 2004 my Limited score was: HF = 5.9059 => 74.7582% That's an additional 1.6 added to the HHF. Ouch! What makes the HHF go up? I just checked and the September 2004 classification percentages I used the first time are still the same so it appears that as the HHF goes up the older scores are not recalculated. In the big picture it's good they adjusted the HHF since having a grandbagger classifier doesn't help the system, but it sucks when you're the one on the receiving end of the bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 What makes the HHF go up?I just checked and the September 2004 classification percentages I used the first time are still the same so it appears that as the HHF goes up the older scores are not recalculated. Realization that it's a problem would be my guess. The older ones should be updated as well, but that's a big task for USPSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 I just checked and the September 2004 classification percentages I used the first time are still the same so it appears that as the HHF goes up the older scores are not recalculated. But vincent, Lee D.'s scores were recalculated... ??? In the big picture it's good they adjusted the HHF since having a grandbagger classifier doesn't help the system, but it sucks when you're the one on the receiving end of the bad news. Yeah it sucks! but it's just not right that some people benefit BIG TIME from this classifier and others don't. I can understand the classifier HHFs gradually increasing as people's overall skills increase... but this is a new classifier and a dramatic increase... The Open HHF increase is about 1.675 or 25%... ugh! Realization that it's a problem would be my guess. The older ones should be updated as well, but that's a big task for USPSA. That's just soooo wrong though! 25% is absurd!!! If USPSA made a mistake and realized there was a problem, they should probably just throw the classifier out. edit: I'm learnin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Both mine are still in at 100%....in Prod and Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Dimaculangan Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 lol i dont really care - haha. but i thought that 7.2 something hit factor for open was pretty darn good already - but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 lol i dont really care I do! I just used you as an example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmist10 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 I shot it yesterday at a club match and was 7 points down in 11.60 with a revolver. dj If you had no penalties and if I'm doing this right that comes out to about 82.6%! I wouldn't get to comfortable in C-Class if that's the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Open A 58 pts 8.77 sec 6.6135 hf Shot this one today. Looks to be around 99%. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 If the HHF has changed, it looks like it will drop my 100% down to 90% or so. That seems a little more reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I guess I should have read the rest of the post. My 6.6 could be around 79%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I shot it yesterday at a club match and was 7 points down in 11.60 with a revolver. dj If you had no penalties and if I'm doing this right that comes out to about 82.6%! I wouldn't get to comfortable in C-Class if that's the case That's kinda what I'm worried about dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Dimaculangan Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 http://www.texassouthsection.com/2004match..._08_21_Open.txt heres the match scores that i shot SIX CHICKENS @ bay area back in august and look up my classification @ USPSA :: A45511 comes at 88% with a 7.3 hit factor - lol dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 The Production HHF definitely went up. With the old HHF, I was predicted to have a 91%, but this one came in at 81.3833% My HF was 4.8830. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hah! The increased HHF did not affect me. My score was already below 2%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Turns out I shot it in 9.23 w/ 51 points for a HF of 5.5255 in Limited. Mike Voigt was also shooting that day and my score was 73.17% of his, but nationally it appears it'll be at 87.66%. I'll take either, but the HHF is DEFINITELY too low on this one. Came in nationally at 69.9430% in Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Gorilla, Yeah, I dont know when, but they changed this by about 10% at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Hey, at least they finally changed one. I'm all for that. I'm not sure why they 'back-date' it to everybody's scores, but it may be a side-effect of the way the database it set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 A fellow from a neighboring club moved up to Master with an early score under the initial hit factor. I wonder if USPSA will move him back down to A class??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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