G17fan Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Looking for load data for the following: IPSC shooting 45ACP 200gr LRN WIN 231 CCI LP All the info is for LSWC or SWC..... Is there different data for RN ? Thanks. Edited August 19, 2012 by G17fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBeavers Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) I use the same load for SWC and RN 5.5gr. I usually set them both about 1.240 AOL. The chrono can't tell the difference. Edited August 18, 2012 by BBeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thanks. I've read a lot of different info on LSWC but nothing for RN....... I just want to make sure my OAL is accurate. 230gr Factory ammo is 1.264-1.268 and I'm not sure if that changes for 200gr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac_driver Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I load them at 1.250 for my 1911 colt gov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieHunter Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Each gun is different and usually has a sweet spot for OAL. I always pick a powder charge when working on a load (starting low of course), and then load at various lengths starting from the longest that will fit in my magazine and/or in my barrel, then work down. I usually see at least one length that is great, with the rest being decent and one or two lengths that are horrible in terms of accuracy (for each gun). If you don't want to take that much time, then just pick an OAL that works in your gun and work your load up with that length; there really isn't a magic number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Does the OAL change from 230gr to 200gr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSlim Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 FWIW, I've used several brands of LSWC and most are loaded between 1.245 and 1.255. I run a lot of 231/HP38 under those bullets, normally in the 5 to 5.2 gr range for paper punching. LRN should load pretty much the same, and 230 gr lead should function at similar charge weights (depending on your spring weights, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 Update.... I loaded 15 rounds each of the following: 1.240-1.249 1.250-1.258 1.262-1.269 200gr LRN 4.9gr of WIN231 CCI LP Now I will take then and see which ones cycle best in my baby. I also checked the charge after every 7 rounds just to make sure since I am new to this and want to be safe. Thoughts on my process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPDGG Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) ^ I would check that over a chrono if looking for Major PF. Probably nice and soft shooting @ 4.9gr. W231. imho: 4.9 gr. of W231 would be short of major PF. fwiw: Most 5" .45ACP W231 loads topped with a 200 grain RN/SWC for Major PF seems to float at 5.5-5.7grains. *** CAUTION: YMMV, Load Cautiously, Look for Pressure Signs, & Go slow from your current load up *** Here is what I load. Don't have my chrono # on hand. Xtreme Plated 200gr. RN .451 LP .45ACP Brass WIN LPP W231 5.6 grains OAL 1.245" Crimp'd at: .471" * I run these in a Les Baer 5"; 16/17 lb. Recoil; 21 lb. Main Edited August 22, 2012 by SPDGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 I am playing it safe. That's why I'm starting low/mid load based on load data from Win/Hogd data for this load. Once I know the best OAL I will fine tune the gr's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 5.5 to 5.6 in 230 gr231 for my worn p II LB(87k) 231 is temp sensitive at times.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Double tapp post.. Edited August 22, 2012 by GmanCdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 Ok update.... Just returned from the range with 18 rounds from each range of OAL. Every round fed and ejected fine except for 1. It did feel that the longer OAL had less recoil than the shorter OAL. Is this something that happens with shorter OAL's? Now it's time to work the charge up slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty4313 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) I throw 5.0gr of 231 under 200gr LSWC's. I run the same oal for both 200 and 230 LSWC's, 1.250". I've found that the round nose bullets have variance between some of the manufacturers as far as nose profile. In that case I light crimp at the top of the lube groove. Smitty Edited August 26, 2012 by Smitty4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes777 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 When you change pal you are messing with internal specs of the cartridge. Longer oal = more case volume. 1.240 to 1.250 is usually recommended. Adjust powder charge from there. Lee FCD will eliminate most feeding issues. The reason the longer oal felt softer is that you changed the dimensions ie the powder air ratio and experienced a different burn rate, and probably less velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 What's a Lee FCD? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Never mind, I found what a FCD was. I have a Dillion SDB so I have the 4 dies that came with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G17fan Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Ok, I just loaded 10 rounds of the following to chrono: 200gr LRN WIN231 5.2gr OAL 1.255 5.4gr OAL 1.255 We will see how this scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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