Glockman1000 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I was looking over my friends old EAA Witness Limited compared to a standard CZ styled pistol & was just thinking of the notion of how I would redesign the Glock. Keeping in mind that I'm thinking of a dedicated pistol for competitive style shooting. I know, I know, we have the medium & longslide models but if I/we had the chance to have Glock make it to my/your specifications, how would you do it? Here are my redesigns to the small frame: Profile the dust cover to the slide length. Give it the "Full Profile" look with the rail. I would think a 34 or 35 would look awesome. Undercut the trigger guard for a higher grip hold & round off the bottom of the guard to minimize "Glock forefinger" but keep the width. Under cut & beavertail the back of the frame by 1/2" to 5/8" again for the higher hold. Remove the finger grooves and thumbshelves. RTF it, but follow the very first models texturing layout that wraps all the way around to the sides. Do the same to the back strap. I like the Gen 2/Gen 3 grip profile so I prefer not to have the interchangeable back straps. Re mold the bottom of the frame with an integrated magwell with the plug cavity solid polymer. Thicken the well opening to provide palm/hand support, shaped like a Dawson. Go with the Gen 4 style mag release for compatibility but extended just a bit more. The slide: Square off the front of the slide, It's for competition anyway, I don't really like the bull nose. Thicken the muzzle area by 3/16" internally to give the barrel extra support. Go back to the single spring style guide rod. Place cocking serrations on the front & finally lower the ejection port. I'd use all the factory internals that a 34/35 comes equipped with, after all we'd still want to tinker I know everything here can be done by the hobbyist or skilled Glocksmith, but what if Glock actually did it? This not meant to offend the purists. But it sure is fun to dream. Zzzzz....Glock 35 IPSC....zzzz....zzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Loose the bull$hit sights for a set of Warren/Sevigny's ...call it done. wear it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Metal guide rod, metal sights, trigger to replace the boom lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockman1000 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Jman, yup first thing I would do to a new Glock, with all the sight options out there, I figured no need for a redesigned dovetail or Bo-Mar style sunken in. Gotta have the "preferences" for the customizer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Sights... Trigger... Grip.... Front slide serrations would be nice too. Maybe shave the sides of the slide or cut windows to lighten the slide. I would have them come stock with Dawson or Warren solid rear and fiber front sight. I would definitely get rid of the finger groves. I like the RTF Gen 4 with interchangeable back-straps for sure, just re-profile it a little for higher grip on the gun. I would have about a 2.5lb very short reset, with next to no overtravel, and limited to no take up competition trigger. And the gun would come with x4 factory magazines in the box, a DOH type holster and x3 quality adjustable single magazine pouches. I don't know if I'd introduce a mag well or not to the gun out of box, but i might consider it. If I did the magazines would come with +4/5 extensions similar to arrendondo. In fact I would probably setup a deal with other companies who's products are popular with competitive shooters to have them make the stuff and stamp Glock on it. It would be a major selling point (Now with Safariland 5187 holster and 773 mag pouches). Oh and it would be one of the few glocks out of the box to have button type rifling, and a more "premium" fit barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockman1000 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Awesome input Lee, kind of makes me think of how the CZ Checkmate deal is with the extras. I figured an aftermarket match barrel in but thought about how the factory could just make the frame mold & add a few steps to the machining operations for the slide upgrades & still keep factory parts interchangeability, without cutting to far in to the aftermarket accessories arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 The first thing I would do is fix the trigger. It's really hard to shoot a Glock well, and I really respect those of you who do it. A consistent trigger was a huge leap forward compared to DA/SA, but it doesn't help if it's gritty. I used to wonder why pistol shooters always talked about the trigger until I started competing myself and realized how critical it is. Ultimately, it's the shooter's responsibility to see the front sight all the way through the trigger press, but we're not doing him any favors by giving him a piece of equipment that needs a 1/2" of travel and creeps all the way to the break. If I were to rebuild the Glock in the way I wanted for competition, I would probably end up with an M&P with a crisper trigger and sharp checkering from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockman1000 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 I actually looked that up... Good one Jake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I would omit the gapping hole on the slide they used to reduce the slide weight, with the other modes mentioned here and good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetback Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 The person he should have asked was DAVE SEVIGNY, when he was with them. If he had there would be something in line with the upgrades already stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4444 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 HA.....I actually did LOL..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 If Gaston Glock walked up to you & asked... and you gave him actual feedback wanting any changes to his design - he would say, "No, the gun is perfect as is, you are mistaken". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig N Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 If Gaston Glock walked up to you & asked... and you gave him actual feedback wanting any changes to his design - he would say, "No, the gun is perfect as is, you are mistaken". See they listened to feedback and that's why we got the gen 4......or The SUCK as I call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 If Gaston Glock walked up to you & asked... and you gave him actual feedback wanting any changes to his design - he would say, "No, the gun is perfect as is, you are mistaken". See they listened to feedback and that's why we got the gen 4......or The SUCK as I call it. Best Glock ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Undercut trigger gaurd Beavertail Gen 4 mag setup but a little longer Improve the extractor and ejector. Even new parts have crap hitting me in the head pretty often. Besides that the aftermarket has done everything you would need them to do. But if he did the top three above it would still be production legal and that would be nice. As a aside..... Glock missed the boat with their silly back strap setup. HK did it right. As did S&W. But for me that doesn't matter. I also don't think it points very well but training helps with that. A little late to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I would remove the finger grooves, add better sights, fill in the void behind the grip and shrink the grip and mould in a mag well. Remove the rail also. JMHOFWIW Richard PS: I was told by someone who knows that Gaston no longer owns Glock! Probably the reason the finish has been changed on Gen. 4 slides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 This is sorta like the question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" My neighbor had a Yugo and when it was stolen out of her driveway, I wanted to know why. Different strokes for different folks. Sorry about you left handed people, not trying to say you do it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty whiteboy Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Go back to the 2nd Gen design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlgentlegiant Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Gen 2 grip design with gen 4 stipling (kind of take it or leave it on the grip adapters), better barrels with more chamber support, SS non-captive guide rod, polish the freaking metal trigger internals, better sights, no cavity in butt and undercut the trigger guard a bit more. I do understand why they did a lot of what they do and that these changes would raise the price but nothing earth shaking here that anyone has mentioned. Edited August 2, 2012 by Atlgentlegiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonb. Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Definitely a better sight set. Get rid of the finger bumps. Flared magwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 It needs a beavertail, and good steel sights for starters. A steel guide rod, metal trigger, and lightened striker would be nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leas327 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 It doesn't need any of that. All the Gen 4 stuff that won't work with the previous gens needs changed back. They shot themselves in the foot with that one. The sights and grip are subjective. I have changed out sights and grips on more expensive guns. The trigger is fine. Its called a .25 cent trigger job for a reason. Keep the cost down and let the tinkerers tinker. I guess if the mold wears out make one with a beavertail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKtruck150 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Sights...Magwell....beavertail! That is all I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3wide Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I like the bullnose on the 34 and 35, put that on all the models. 45 acp competition model Boar type adj rear sight. No price increases....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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