MattYvip Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I ordered some yesterday and they told me they would ship today! Thanks Mick for giving me the info for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 I will be receiving my production samples shortly as well. For those receiving them, please feel free to post your technical feedback. When installing, once the cap bottoms out, be sure to give an extra tweak to make sure the cap is fully seated. It should not move at all under recoil. The prototypes have been rock solid. Mick I ordered some yesterday and they told me they would ship today! Thanks Mick for giving me the info for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Mine is on it's way. I've already got buyers remorse. I should have ordered a +2 also! What was I thinking??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Who do I order them through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Bacus Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Just ordered a +1, can't wait to get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Got the production samples today. Feel like they go on just like the prototypes and have some "bite" at the end. Don't be afraid to turn these down tight. Here's a pic of the black anodized +1. These have been media tumbled for a more matte black appearance. They appear blacker/shinier than the factory tube. Mick Edited August 30, 2012 by MickB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Here is the black anodized +2. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Here is the red +1. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Here is the red +2. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattYvip Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Just got back from a 3 gun match where I used my +2 endcap. So here's my nonsientific review: 1) It fit great, threaded on to the tube with no issues at all. The red anodizing was also well done. 2) It functioned flawlessly through a couple practice sessions and again through the match (total of a little over 200 rounds). 3) Gas and carbon will build up on the end cap but will easily wipe off and the anodizing was untouched by the gas and heat. 4) My only complaint is that I cannot get 10 shells in my tube (2 3/4 fiocchi 1 1/8 target loads) consistently. I've tried several times and have only been able to do it twice. That being said, for USPSA rules I can only load 9 at anytime anyway so it wasn't a factor. Any advice on getting the 10th shell in the tube would be appreciated. Thanks again for a solid product at a great price (and super fast shipping)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Shoot Fast Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Yes. Mick Does that mean they are about to ship out? How do I order one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattYvip Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Call Galco manufacturing. I'll PM you with the #. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheiny13 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I've already brought up the issue to Glenn, of not getting all 10 rounds in with certain types of shells. He said he would have a slightly longer prototype in the mail to me the next day. Hopefully it will be here soon. I'll keep you guys posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Good feedback. Lengths were determined using 2.75" Estate Heavy Game Loads and Federal bulk pack shells, as well as using the length of a +6 Nordic tube with regular end cap. With the +2 in place on my Tactical, I loaded up 10 shells of Estate and Federal and measured how much space was available. With Estate and 10 shells there is 0.75" free space left. With Fed bulk pack, I have 0.70" free space left. I assume the Fiochi shells are slightly longer than Federal and Estate. How close were you to getting the 10th shell in? Do you have that measurement? A half inch extra length might be all that is required. I know I dithered around that when we were making the prototypes. Another trick is to use a standard plastic follower which is shorter than the aluminium unit that comes with the tactical - that will get you a little more room. You should also have a +1 sent to you as well so you can see if that needs to be lengthened slightly as well. And did the red make you shoot faster? Mick I've already brought up the issue to Glenn, of not getting all 10 rounds in with certain types of shells. He said he would have a slightly longer prototype in the mail to me the next day. Hopefully it will be here soon. I'll keep you guys posted Edited September 4, 2012 by MickB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Any movement of the cap at all? Mick Just got back from a 3 gun match where I used my +2 endcap. So here's my nonsientific review: 1) It fit great, threaded on to the tube with no issues at all. The red anodizing was also well done. 2) It functioned flawlessly through a couple practice sessions and again through the match (total of a little over 200 rounds). 3) Gas and carbon will build up on the end cap but will easily wipe off and the anodizing was untouched by the gas and heat. 4) My only complaint is that I cannot get 10 shells in my tube (2 3/4 fiocchi 1 1/8 target loads) consistently. I've tried several times and have only been able to do it twice. That being said, for USPSA rules I can only load 9 at anytime anyway so it wasn't a factor. Any advice on getting the 10th shell in the tube would be appreciated. Thanks again for a solid product at a great price (and super fast shipping)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattYvip Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Any movement of the cap at all? Mick Just got back from a 3 gun match where I used my +2 endcap. So here's my nonsientific review: 1) It fit great, threaded on to the tube with no issues at all. The red anodizing was also well done. 2) It functioned flawlessly through a couple practice sessions and again through the match (total of a little over 200 rounds). 3) Gas and carbon will build up on the end cap but will easily wipe off and the anodizing was untouched by the gas and heat. 4) My only complaint is that I cannot get 10 shells in my tube (2 3/4 fiocchi 1 1/8 target loads) consistently. I've tried several times and have only been able to do it twice. That being said, for USPSA rules I can only load 9 at anytime anyway so it wasn't a factor. Any advice on getting the 10th shell in the tube would be appreciated. Thanks again for a solid product at a great price (and super fast shipping)! Nope. The end cap, once tightened, didn't move at all. So kudos on that. As far as the 10th round with the fiocchi it was really close but never really got it. I got it twice by chance but I dry fired it with the live ammo on a range and only got 10 rounds in twice out of the 20 plus time I tried it. That being said, if it was a little longer it would work great. I'm a fan of the product for USPSA sanctioned three gun; however, if it was an outlaw match or if you could load 10 for tac optics it wouldn't have worked like I wanted it to. I"m a fan of the product, and if they come out with a revised version I'd buy it. Good stuff from GALCO and thanks to MickB for the hook up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattYvip Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 And did the red make you shoot faster? Mick The red made me shoot WAAAAY faster! haha no I still suck but it wasn't cause I wasn't looking FABULOUS kidding but a few people did say they liked the red look. So thanks for a good product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Any movement of the cap at all? Mick Just got back from a 3 gun match where I used my +2 endcap. So here's my nonsientific review: 1) It fit great, threaded on to the tube with no issues at all. The red anodizing was also well done. 2) It functioned flawlessly through a couple practice sessions and again through the match (total of a little over 200 rounds). 3) Gas and carbon will build up on the end cap but will easily wipe off and the anodizing was untouched by the gas and heat. 4) My only complaint is that I cannot get 10 shells in my tube (2 3/4 fiocchi 1 1/8 target loads) consistently. I've tried several times and have only been able to do it twice. That being said, for USPSA rules I can only load 9 at anytime anyway so it wasn't a factor. Any advice on getting the 10th shell in the tube would be appreciated. Thanks again for a solid product at a great price (and super fast shipping)! Nope. The end cap, once tightened, didn't move at all. So kudos on that. As far as the 10th round with the fiocchi it was really close but never really got it. I got it twice by chance but I dry fired it with the live ammo on a range and only got 10 rounds in twice out of the 20 plus time I tried it. That being said, if it was a little longer it would work great. I'm a fan of the product for USPSA sanctioned three gun; however, if it was an outlaw match or if you could load 10 for tac optics it wouldn't have worked like I wanted it to. I"m a fan of the product, and if they come out with a revised version I'd buy it. Good stuff from GALCO and thanks to MickB for the hook up. I'm pretty sure you can get hooked up with a slightly longer end cap... Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheiny13 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I suggested to Glenn to have both caps extended by a half an inch. I felt that that extra length would give a comfortable buffer when loaded to capacity with fiocchi slugs which I think are the longest 2 3/4" shells around. I determined this length by loading up the tube and unscrewing the cap to create more room in the tube. Unscrewing a half inch felt like the best additional length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the info. I just checked with Winchester Ranger Reduced Recoil slugs which are longer than Estate and Federal bird shot. With the +2, the 10th shell is very tight to get in. With the +1, the 9th shell is very tight to get in. That said, with the +2, if I loaded 9 slugs and 1 bird shot, I had no issues. Same with the +1. No problems with 8 slugs and 1 birdshot. My 26" versamax with the +6 tube and XXL cap also has the exact same issue, however. An extra half inch looks like it would be perfect for the +2. For the +1, looks like an extra quarter inch might work, but would have to compare with an extra half inch. Mick I suggested to Glenn to have both caps extended by a half an inch. I felt that that extra length would give a comfortable buffer when loaded to capacity with fiocchi slugs which I think are the longest 2 3/4" shells around. I determined this length by loading up the tube and unscrewing the cap to create more room in the tube. Unscrewing a half inch felt like the best additional length Edited September 4, 2012 by MickB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Update: I received a prototype +2 that was lengthened by 0.625". Using Estate 2.75" Heavy Game loads, with 10 shells in the tube, there is 1.3" of fee space. With Winchester Reduced Recoil slugs, there is 0.5" of free space when 10 slugs are in the tube. The above are using the standard spring that comes with the Tactical. When using a longer Nordic spring set up for a 10rd tube, the free space when using slugs is gone. The 10th shell is easy to get in, but there is about 0.1" or so of free space left. Mick Edited September 6, 2012 by MickB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Here is a pic of the lengthened +2 prototype below the current version. Mick Edited September 6, 2012 by MickB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 I have been told that there is a bigger demand for the red end caps over the black ones. Seems we're a fashion conscious bunch or the red really does make one go faster. So, for the fashionable shooters out there, what would you think of blue or even green caps? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankYa Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Any advice on how to remove the stock end cap? I can't get enough grip to twist it off by hand. Thanks, Lester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) Got my + 2 from Mick and i installed already, it ran flawless and the gun looks so much better... Thanks Mick Edited September 10, 2012 by ogiebb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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