Dillon 650 or 1050

[ksshooter223]

I still can't decide if I should go all out with the 1050 or save the funds with a 650? I already have a 550 which has suited me well, however I am ready to step up and could use the extra press to keep from switching out primer size. I know I will hear replies like how much I plan to shoot in a year..not nearly what the 1050 is rated at. Also the warranty difference means little to me. This being said has anyone purchased a 1050 over a 650 considering future price increase? I know my Dillons prices continue to rise, not hating this is a fact of life just wondering. Also I already have the dillon swagging tool however would appreciate the difference in primer feeding and swaging on the 1050. The 650 is substantially less in price and I am looking at putting a bullet feeder on it at some time down the road.

[yoshidaex]

The cost of caliber changes for a 650 is less than a 1050.

I do like the primer swage option in the 1050. Allows me to run all sorts of brass without worry.

Caliber change on a 650 is easier.

Primer size change out on a 650 is easier in my opinion.

Edited July 24, 2012 by yoshidaex

[nwsnowbum]

I was in the same dilemma as you are in. I went with 2 1050's. One in each primer size. I've never used a 650 before so I cannot comment on it. This was an upgrade from a Forster Co-Ax. I have to say I love my 1050's and would do it again if I was in the same position. Obviously its a large investment. One of the big reasons for me initially was the built in swaging. I have a lot of crimped brass. I have a swaging tool, but handling handgun brass that many times gets old if you are doing a large amount of it. I know you only have to do it once, but if you ever end up with someone else's brass at the range its a pain to sort it all out again.

I wasn't too worried about future price increases, only that I wish I had gotten them before the last increase

Of course I don't have kids, so I didn't have to put them on food stamps or replace their pampers with home made duct tape diapers to be able to afford the presses.

[sauza45]

I upgraded from a 650 to a 1050 and could not be happier. Both are great loaders but the 1050 runs smoother than the 650. Knowing what I know now

I wish I would have gotten a 1050 to start.

[Got Juice?]

Coming from someone with the same dilemma as you have

I owned a 550 and wanted to spend more time shooting than reloading.

After a lot of soul searching, and good advice on here, I purchased a 1050 and could not be happier.

I only change 2 calibers (super and .40) and for everything else, I use the 550.

Keep the 550 od less-used calibers or precision loading and have the 1050 for high bolume stuff.

I have NO regrets and NO buyers remorse. In fact, I do not even think of the money I spent, because it was money spent well and wisely.

[Jaxshooter]

I had two 650s and a 550. The 550 was for my S&W revolver loads because it was easy to flatten primers on it..I now have a.1050 set up for 9 mm Major (highest volume) and the 650 takes care of the other calibers. The 1050 is great. Waiting for my bullet feeder to show up so I can really crank them out..

Just curious how much trouble is it and how much time does it take to change calibers on the 1050 ? How about just changing tool heads when you can use the same shell plate and buttons?

[ksshooter223]

Well this is all good info. I am really leaning towards the 1050. I would keep it set up for small primers and run everything else through the 550. Which means I would run mostly .223 through the 1050, looks like I have to put more pen to paper since the majority of my reloads are going to be small primer which = more tool heads ($) like mentioned. I wish I could afford 2 1050...!! That would be a good start, did I mention I am recently married in the last year? lol I feel good about getting away with what I do now.

[blueeyedme]

I upgraded from a 650 to a 1050 and could not be happier. Both are great loaders but the 1050 runs smoother than the 650. Knowing what I know now

I wish I would have gotten a 1050 to start.

+1. I did the same thing. On a positive note, Dillon equipment holds its value so I didn't get hurt too bad selling the 650.

[98sr20ve]

I made the opposite choice. Went with a 650 over the 1050. I just could not justify the extra price for the 1050. In pistol I run across very few crimped primer pockets. If I have a priming issue it easy to pull a partially primed case out of the 650 (its designed to be easy in that regard). The time I take to push to prime is spent seating a bullet so the speed difference is negligible. Don't get me wrong. 1050's are very nice presses. But for the money a 650 is a great deal as well. If your running into a lot of crimped primers in the caliber you load on the 1050 I would definitely do the 1050. Otherwise, it's harder to justify, other then "I just want the nicer press" which is plenty good enough a reason to me.

[blueeyedme]

I made the opposite choice. Went with a 650 over the 1050. I just could not justify the extra price for the 1050. In pistol I run across very few crimped primer pockets. If I have a priming issue it easy to pull a partially primed case out of the 650 (its designed to be easy in that regard). The time I take to push to prime is spent seating a bullet so the speed difference is negligible. Don't get me wrong. 1050's are very nice presses. But for the money a 650 is a great deal as well. If your running into a lot of crimped primers in the caliber you load on the 1050 I would definitely do the 1050. Otherwise, it's harder to justify, other then "I just want the nicer press" which is plenty good enough a reason to me.

The 650 truly a remarkable machine but it is honestly not comparable to the 1050 in smoothness or speed...and priming on the downstroke is a wonderful thing. You really can't go wrong with either choice - but if you can afford it, the 1050 is the easy choice.

[98sr20ve]

The 650 truly a remarkable machine but it is honestly not comparable to the 1050 in smoothness or speed...and priming on the downstroke is a wonderful thing. You really can't go wrong with either choice - but if you can afford it, the 1050 is the easy choice.

Not comparable? Dillon does it all the time. From a function point of view they do the same thing (except swaging). 1050 is nicer, sure enough. My 650 with the roller bearing mod is pretty smooth. Smoother then with out the mod that is for sure. 1050 is nicer. I have used the 1050 in the past. Is it worth the price increase to have a smoother machine when you don't need the swager? I said no. In the end they both make ammo. One machines ammo is no better then the other machines ammo. I see very little increase in speed on a 1050. As you prime on the 650 you are seating the bullet. No matter how I try I am always done priming before I seat the bullet. With a bullet feeder the 1050 has a clear speed advantage.

Edited July 25, 2012 by 98sr20ve

[blueeyedme]

Not comparable? Dillon does it all the time. From a function point of view they do the same thing (except swaging). 1050 is nicer, sure enough. My 650 with the roller bearing mod is pretty smooth. Smoother then with out the mod that is for sure. 1050 is nicer. I have used the 1050 in the past. Is it worth the price increase to have a smoother machine when you don't need the swager? I said no. In the end they both make ammo. One machines ammo is no better then the other machines ammo. I see very little increase in speed on a 1050. As you prime on the 650 you are seating the bullet. No matter how I try I am always done priming before I seat the bullet. With a bullet feeder the 1050 has a clear speed advantage.

Well I guess you are just a better 650 operator than I was. Like I said, there is no wrong choice here.

[Aircooled6racer]

Hello: Get the 1050 but keep the 550. In 5 years if you want to sell the 1050 you will get what you paid for it Loading 223 on a 1050 is soooo easy also. Thanks, Eric

[FishingFool]

I have a 650. Now I'm wishing for a 1050 b/c I shoot .223 and swaging is a pain.

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[98sr20ve]

Not comparable? Dillon does it all the time. From a function point of view they do the same thing (except swaging). 1050 is nicer, sure enough. My 650 with the roller bearing mod is pretty smooth. Smoother then with out the mod that is for sure. 1050 is nicer. I have used the 1050 in the past. Is it worth the price increase to have a smoother machine when you don't need the swager? I said no. In the end they both make ammo. One machines ammo is no better then the other machines ammo. I see very little increase in speed on a 1050. As you prime on the 650 you are seating the bullet. No matter how I try I am always done priming before I seat the bullet. With a bullet feeder the 1050 has a clear speed advantage.

Well I guess you are just a better 650 operator than I was. Like I said, there is no wrong choice here.

I have done a couple simple mods. My 650 runs smoothly. If you have to money just get the 1050. I do think a 650/550 makes a lot of sense for someone. You need a cheaper way to load the seldom used calibers. Unless you just like converting the 1050 for seldom fired stuff.