Schedule 40 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My wife recently purchased an M&P 9mm with the ambidextrous thumb safety. Her plan is to use it for USPSA Production division. After many practice sessions, she is starting to think that she would like her pistol more if the safety was removed. If I remove the thumb safety, will her firearm still be legal to use in Production. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Sorry Not legal: APPENDIX D4 — Production Division (Contd.) 22 Specifically prohibited modifications and features Removing or disabling firing-pin blocks or any other factory safety mechanism in Production division is specifically prohibited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsydlooknin75 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Sorry Not legal: APPENDIX D4 — Production Division (Contd.) 22 Specifically prohibited modifications and features Removing or disabling firing-pin blocks or any other factory safety mechanism in Production division is specifically prohibited. Couldn't they just say that it didn't come with the safety as both models are available? Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 There is a hole in the frame for the safety lever. It would have to be filled to pull this off sufficiently dishonestly. Just sell the gun and buy an M&P without the safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kend Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) You need to replace the sear block with the non manual safety version and also get the two frame plugs to fill the holes, you should be able to sell your sear block and safety lever for enough to cover the new parts. Or find someone to swap with. This is exactly what the factory does so it would be the same as buying an M&P without the manual safety so there would be nothing dishonest about it. We are out of the sear blocks right now and I'm not sure the factory has any in stock but it may be worth a phone call, I think we have the frame plugs but I'll have to check. Be sure you get the new version of the sear block with the large sear spring. Edited July 9, 2012 by kend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) For the sake of argument, what makes doing the changes mentioned legal but a Glock shooter can't switch lowers and uppers etc to change a G22 to a G34? I'm sure I have read plenty of info on that being illegal. Edited July 9, 2012 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schedule 40 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Thanks for the replies. Kend, it sounds like your method is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 For the sake of argument, what makes doing the changes mentioned legal but a Glock shooter can't switch lowers and uppers etc to change a G22 to a G34? I'm sure I have read plenty of info on that being illegal. It is all about honestly and integrity both things that many are challenged with ;'0 My understanding is it is illegal. The guns serial numbers dictate how the gun is set up and the gun needs to be used as produced by the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 For the sake of argument, what makes doing the changes mentioned legal but a Glock shooter can't switch lowers and uppers etc to change a G22 to a G34? I'm sure I have read plenty of info on that being illegal. Not the same situation as a Glock 22 was never offered in 9mm. The M&P 9mm is available both with and without the safety. It definitely violates the literal language to remove the safety, however, and so it's illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schedule 40 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I truly appreciate all of the replys on this topic. It seems quite obvious that her best bet would simply be to leave it on and learn to deal with it. No expense, no rule violation, and on top of it all, it should only help reinforce a higher grip on her gun. I simply would hate to make any modifications only to have a good performance be wiped away due to a rule violation at a major match. The rules are the rules, and we do not intend to break any of them. That was the whole intent of asking the question in the first place. Thanks, again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Asking questions like that are always the wise thing to do. It is easier than many think to violate the rules, especially in Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPED1 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Would you be interested in trading for a 9mm W/O the safety? I have a friend that bought one without but wishes it had one. It probably doesn't have 2 boxes of ammo through it. We are in IL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjw Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) My wife recently purchased an M&P 9mm with the ambidextrous thumb safety. Her plan is to use it for USPSA Production division. After many practice sessions, she is starting to think that she would like her pistol more if the safety was removed. If I remove the thumb safety, will her firearm still be legal to use in Production. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. i hae a 99.99% full size with no thumb safety. we can trade if we can keep in simple\ u can email me jumper66@cox.net leave a phone number i will call on my dime each pays shipping to the other hope this helps jjw (b.l. farley) akron ohio Edited July 20, 2012 by jjw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcurrin Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 You should have no problem trading out for one without a safety. The one's with safeties seem to be in higher demand than those without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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