dskinsler83 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Why can you not use a DOH in SS?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Because the rules state you can't Trust me, do some dry firing and you will be plenty fast, this old has-been-never-was can do a sub 1.0 sec draw, so you can too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Because Appendix D5.20 says the top strap has to be above the belt. Basically they didn't want to allow it when the division was formed. Blast from the past Clickety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 I understand it's in the rules but I just wondering y...u can for production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 It's a carryover from the Single Stack Classic, from which it was spawned. http://www.dillonprecision.com/docs/sep_06_single_stack_1.pdf http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_181_30/ai_n26806166/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 You can use a DOH in Single Stack. You just have to be a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 Haha lol. Welp maybe I need to bring this up to my area director since there are other changes on the herizon for 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 You can use a DOH in Single Stack. You just have to be a woman. Haha lol. Welp maybe I need to bring this up to my area director since there are other changes on the herizon for 2013 dsk: are you going to declare yourself a woman? I was wondering if that's what you meant by "herizon"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Haha lol. Welp maybe I need to bring this up to my area director since there are other changes on the herizon for 2013 What would the rationale be? I can understand the desire to want to use a DOH, but SStk's already a healthy Division and allowing the DOH would cause some competitors to think they needed to spend money. Further, it would be another step away from IDPA's CDP Division, which is a good source to (continue to?) draw some competitors from. Fact of the matter is that there just isn't a good reason to allow DOH in SS and plenty to continue to disallow it, not the least of which is rules stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I understand it's in the rules but I just wondering y...u can for production Because Production is not SS..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I have never used a DOH for Production. Granted, I'm not the best Production shooter ever, but I doubt it'd make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie j Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Please go shoot some SS matches first, before you start trying to stir the pot for rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Don't take it personal guys good god it was a question just a freaking question. "Stir the pot" really come on it was a question i put up in the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie j Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Ok so , here's how it came about. Production was created first and the doh was allowed. Then when USPSA bought or acquired or whatever single stack classic they agreed to keep the rules as is . No doh , major 8 minor 10. Just buy a blade tech with the DOH bracket and take it off and save it . Shoot enough SS and you'll be taking it off your other holsters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynes_world_45 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Please go shoot some SS matches first, before you start trying to stir the pot for rest of us. You're gonna get put in timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 I have a single stack holster I have shot single stack I know howbthatvworks I have a rule book I have read it I just asked y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 No DOH in SS because Gary wanted no DOH in SS. There was no DOH around when the 1911 came out, and so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z40acp Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 The Single Stack Classic had a lot to do with it. If you remember they talked about doing away with the DOH in Production a couple of years ago and people were not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hmmm well I figure and by all means please don't get your panties in a bunch for the ones I have apparently offended with my question is that even if it were allow as in production division just because they say you can use it don't mean ya gotta! If a rule was instated that DOH was allowed doesn't make people go buy equipment! That's like saying guns kill people! I only asked a question of why. For those of you whom took the time to answer the question with facts and not smart ass remarks thank you! Now I know why and the reasoning behind the initial desiscion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztecdriver Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hmmm well I figure and by all means please don't get your panties in a bunch for the ones I have apparently offended with my question is that even if it were allow as in production division just because they say you can use it don't mean ya gotta! If a rule was instated that DOH was allowed doesn't make people go buy equipment! That's like saying guns kill people! I only asked a question of why. For those of you whom took the time to answer the question with facts and not smart ass remarks thank you! Now I know why and the reasoning behind the initial desiscion Problem is - you suggested to support changing it - not simply understanding the reasoning behind its existence. That, above anything else, was more than likely the reason some teeth were bore. Truth be told, I see no reason to change it. It is currently the law of the land. If there was a compelling case to be made, by all means, please do so. Unfortunately, comparison to production and because I want to isn't going to be enough. Single stack works now without it. It has interchangeability with IDPA types (if I shot IDPA, I'd probably start there) and it supports a more traditional carry option as part of the sport. Plus, as is possible, someone will suggest that if you want the drop that bad, just go ahead and shoot limited 10, which is a perfectly acceptable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Actually, my reading of D5.20 is that it only disallows the drop because of the frontstrap above the belt requirements. I think offset is still allows as long the 2" rule is satisfied. Am I misreading D5.20? Is the "suitable for everyday use" in D5.20 not the same as the Production D4.20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Actually, my reading of D5.20 is that it only disallows the drop because of the frontstrap above the belt requirements. A distinction without a difference, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) DOH in production is silly as well. Production, SS, CDP and SSP should all use the same basic holster. Leave the race holsters for race guns. Edited July 3, 2012 by 98sr20ve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 DOH is by far not a race holster sir and this is not a comparison of USPSA and IDPA sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 DOH in production is silly as well. Production, SS, CDP and SSP should all use the same basic holster. Leave the race holsters for race guns. Dropped and offset makes it a race holster? Granted I don't use the Dropped and offset at all. I find it makes the holster to "floppy". I get a much better draw with out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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