TXGLOCK Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Edit to delete Edited June 26, 2012 by TXGLOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthshine402 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Get a light and shine it down to examine each case to double-check the powder charge before you put the bullet on. I bought a clamp-on LED light from Target that works well with my 650. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Case had very little powder in it. Power pistol is a loud powder, so even a bit will make a decent sound. My guess is that when you checked the charge, not all the powder made its way back into the case. Next question: How much did your charge vary every 5th case? I'm betting not much to any variation. Stop checking every 5th, start watching the powder in the case... With the Dillon, its a set it and forget it powder drop. Edit to add: the real reason for the squib was........ It's a Glock! Edited June 26, 2012 by GrumpyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemoe83 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Sounds as if you had a low charge or contaminated powder. Did you lube the cases and get to much in the case? I suppose it could have been a bad primer that did not burn the powder. If you haven't cleaned the gun pull it apart and look for unburned powder in the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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atbarr Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Edit to add: the real reason for the squib was........ It's a Glock! Barf! At the Battle and the Ohio match, I kept seeing all these high dollar 1911 and 2011's crapping out. My cheap Glock 35, just kept on a shooting. Yeah, the shooter was slow, but the Glock did not add 1 sec. to my time. Oh yeah, Glocks Rocks! Edited June 26, 2012 by atbarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Edit to add: the real reason for the squib was........ It's a Glock! Barf! At the Battle and the Ohio match, I kept seeing all these high dollar 1911 and 2011's crapping out. My cheap Glock 35, just kept on a shooting. Yeah, the shooter was slow, but the Glock did not add 1 sec. to my time. Oh yeah, Glocks Rocks! It did, you just didn't realize it....... If it looks slow, it must be slow! I'd rather have rocks than Glocks! Edited June 26, 2012 by GrumpyOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 It did, you just didn't realize it....... If it looks slow, it must be slow! I'd rather have rocks than Glocks! Nadda my Friend, at the Ohio match I pulled a ham string and walked as slow as a 90 year old man as I shot the stages. I only wish I was as good as my Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXGLOCK Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Edit to delete Edited June 26, 2012 by TXGLOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 It did, you just didn't realize it....... If it looks slow, it must be slow! I'd rather have rocks than Glocks! Nadda my Friend, at the Ohio match I pulled a ham string and walked as slow as a 90 year old man as I shot the stages. I only wish I was as good as my Glock. Get as much plastic in you as that Glock then! Sorry to hear about the hamstring.... That hurts for a long time! Rest up and shoot straight, AT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 That hurts for a long time! Rest up and shoot straight, AT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 The real reason a Glock? I've battled Glock haters on various forums for years and almost didn't post because of that. Bob Vogel probably has made a few Glock haters.:roflol:He and his GLOCK 34, has spanked a many shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXGLOCK Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Well thanks all. I was afraid this would turn into a Glock debate and it has. If I can figure out how to delete this post I will, otherwise do not respond to my concerns, I will not read or respond to further posts. Thanks but no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Well thanks all. I was afraid this would turn into a Glock debate and it has. If I can figure out how to delete this post I will, otherwise do not respond to my concerns, I will not read or respond to further posts. Thanks but no thanks. Come on Man, GrumpyOne and I are good friends. He likes CZ and I like Glocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Grumpy is just playing with you. I have never met a nicer person and he is a very funny guy. You just have to get to know him. As for the squib, as others have said, even Grumpy, it was probably just a low charge of a pretty loud powder. Personally I have found that Dillons like to be set loose to make ammo. Stopping every 5th or 20th or whatever round is when things get out of whack. I currently verify all my settings about every 3-400 rounds in a 1500 round string. They are usually very close but once in awhile a die will work loose, etc. Honestly, set your drop and oal and crimp and load 100 straight without stopping. Your short oal rounds will be from when the plate was not full which is common on the Dillons. It's possible that while you were fiddling with one of those rounds you were checking you may have pulled on the handle slightly which will activate the powder drop slightly. Who knows? As for the 1.08 round you found that is probably the round you were trying to chamber on top of the squib bullet. A few jolts and the bullet probably moved. That being said I don't like for a bullet to move AT ALL so I use an undersized die in 9mm. Set the press and let it do it's magic and you will get much better results. Welcome to the forums and don't get upset about the ribbing. When some of us get too out of line a moderator usually comes along and reminds us that this is not your typical internet forum and we don't argue or bicker much. Except in the rules forum . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sroe3 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Dang guys, he took his posts and went home. Meanies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Well, with skin that thin he may as well go home. Good one Grumpy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Wow! I think that's the quickest yet! I did send him a pm, apologizing and saying it was all in fun.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) This technique could be very handy and used on new op's in the future. Edited June 27, 2012 by John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 What are you saying? Using me as a.screen? Don't know if I like that. Anyway, back to the subject: What caused our OP's squib? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 No, not use you as a screen. Blame their brand of gun. Causes them to bugout fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Wow! I think that's the quickest yet! I did send him a pm, apologizing and saying it was all in fun.... Don't worry Grumpy. If you feel the need, you can insult me all you want. Stop picking on the new meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Wow! I think that's the quickest yet! I did send him a pm, apologizing and saying it was all in fun.... Don't worry Grumpy. If you feel the need, you can insult me all you want. Stop picking on the new meat. Fresh Fish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) Case had very little powder in it. Power pistol is a loud powder, so even a bit will make a decent sound. My guess is that when you checked the charge, not all the powder made its way back into the case. Next question: How much did your charge vary every 5th case? I'm betting not much to any variation. Stop checking every 5th, start watching the powder in the case... With the Dillon, its a set it and forget it powder drop. Edit to add: the real reason for the squib was........ It's a Glock! Grump that is jist fundamentally UNTRUE! On a Dillion that FLAKEY FAIL SAFE NUT KEEPS WORKING LOOSE! First thing you know it is pumping out empty cases! Every time you put primers in tighten your nut. Next don't pick on my friend Young Eyes. I can splain every squibb I had, the first few were all created around 7:30 pm on a Friday night right after I slinked in from a Happy Hour and 5 Magritias. So mixing powder and Tequila don't work. After that I dug out the Powder Check I got in a trade a couple years earlier and put it on the machine. The other day I found out the horn didn't work, first I thought that I had finally gone deaf but no it wasn't working. Just got a replacment and again Dillon design is poor, on the 650 the horn faces away from you making it hard to hear. Say What Huh? All squibbs have the same cause, no or little powder, aka operator error. Most of the time this will be brought on by some malfunction like an upside down piece of brass, or a smashed primer, something that interrupts the process then when the operator resumes, ooops. So check every station after every "malfunction". Edited June 29, 2012 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 This is why we have rules against debating "this gun vs. that gun". Read them. Follow them. To the opening poster... this isn't a Glock hating or debating forum (I'm the Administrator here and I shoot Glocks, fwiw) - Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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