ErikW Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 How about we gather and list the commerical, cannister-grade powders that are identically formulated but are branded differently? For example, Hodgdon HS6 and Winchester 540. Ramshot Silhouette (?) and Winchester Action Pistol. You get the idea. But only the powders proven identical by a preponderance of evidence. For example, you may be able to load True Blue in place of N350, but we know they aren't the same powder. The Ramshot powders would be a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Hodgdon HP-38 and Winchester 231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 H110 and W296 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 H110 and W296 Is that for certain? Because, long ago, when I used to load/test them both in my 30 carbine, I didn't think they were the same powder. Especially because the barrel was noticeably cooler after shooting a 30 round burst (M2) with H110 than it was with 296. And I noticed that time after time. But maybe something changed? be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Run n Gun Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 ...HS-7 is identical to Winchester's discontinued 571. Straight from Hodgdon's site... Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Ramshot Zip and WW 231. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Winchester SuperLite and Hodgdon Titegroup Duane's rebuttal post to follow soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Erik, gather the info and start a list that is easy to read. Just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 (edited) Varget = Reloder 15. There is no question on this one. Edited July 15, 2004 by George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted July 15, 2004 Author Share Posted July 15, 2004 MM, that's the idea. I see there is already some controversy as to the decisions. I will be strict about it. Maybe a second topic for the "almost the same, not sure" powder twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 H110 and W296 Is that for certain? Because, long ago, when I used to load/test them both in my 30 carbine, I didn't think they were the same powder. Especially because the barrel was noticeably cooler after shooting a 30 round burst (M2) with H110 than it was with 296. And I noticed that time after time. But maybe something changed? be I got that straight from the Winchester Rep at the hangun silhouette international championships 5 years ago. He said that winchester makes them both but gives the worst lots to hogdon. I guess it is second hand info. I have read it on other forums since then also. I wouldnt bet my life on that info though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I got that straight from the Winchester Rep at the hangun silhouette international championships 5 years ago. He said that ... Not to denigrate the Winchester rep or anything, but I would take any hear-say info like that "with a grain of salt" unless, I knew for a fact I was talking to their senior engineer/chemist. YMMV RobT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Yea, especially if the rep's name started with Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFABOVE Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) I am looking for a good reciepe for using pistol powder to load up .30 carbine 110 grain fmj for a rifle.Like most people I have plenty of pistol powder but next to no rifle powder! I currently have 231,Bullseye,Unique,and Titegroup lll. I usually use 296 or H110 which I can't find for month's. Mahalo!,JB Edited April 9, 2013 by DFABOVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 This thread is 9 years old. Please don't revive old threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Varget = Reloder 15. There is no question on this one. Surely not the same powder - Varget is single-based and manufactured by ADI, R-15 is double-based and made by Alliant. R-15 tends to run slower in most 223 and 308 loads with heavy bullets. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebancolt Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Varget = Reloder 15. There is no question on this one. Surely not the same powder - Varget is single-based and manufactured by ADI, R-15 is double-based and made by Alliant. R-15 tends to run slower in most 223 and 308 loads with heavy bullets. Mark You Beat Me To It. Varget And RL15 Look And Smell Different And Require Different Loads In Both My 308 And 223S They Are Both Great Powders Though, Just Not The Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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