modex Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) I noticed this when I first set up the press. After completing a stroke and returning the handle to the upright position, I'm able to push the arm another half inch forward after the ram is all the way up. I can also see the toolhead rotate counter clockwise ever so slightly. Everything lines back up on the way down. Does anyone else notice this? Is there a way to eliminate it? Edited April 9, 2012 by modex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Mine does that but probably not quite that much. I don't know where it moves. I just try to remember not to push it. It's kind of a disconcerting feeling but doesn't seem to affect anything. Mine isn't new though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modex Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 Sounds just like mine. I try to look and see where the extra movement comes from but I can't see it anywhere. Also, with the toolhead off, I can feel the extra movement in both directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck223 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 When was the last time you took your machine apart and greased the bearings? The only thing I can see that might cause that type of movement is a worn key. (Or whatever the square section is called locking the handles shaft to the linkage that transfers the motion the the tool shaft. And yes, mine does the same thing on the downstroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modex Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 When was the last time you took your machine apart and greased the bearings? The only thing I can see that might cause that type of movement is a worn key. (Or whatever the square section is called locking the handles shaft to the linkage that transfers the motion the the tool shaft. And yes, mine does the same thing on the downstroke. It's brand new. It's been doing it since I took it out of the box. I just recently took it down for cleaning and inspection; still behaves the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Hunter Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Mine does it a little - don't see any issues with it. The two studs in the head line up in the shell plate for alignment going down. When in doubt call Dillon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 At least this seems fairly "normal". Maybe Dillon will chime in and let us know exactly what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 This overtravel is normal. It is the difference between the actual stroke length of the linkage and where the toolhead spring holds the toolhead at when the handle is up. The toolhead spring always collapses slightly, resulting in the handle apparently being able to move more at the end of the upstroke. This has no effect at all on the operation of the loader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modex Posted April 11, 2012 Author Share Posted April 11, 2012 This overtravel is normal. It is the difference between the actual stroke length of the linkage and where the toolhead spring holds the toolhead at when the handle is up. The toolhead spring always collapses slightly, resulting in the handle apparently being able to move more at the end of the upstroke. This has no effect at all on the operation of the loader. That's what I initially thought. But when I took the toolhead and shell plate off for cleaning, I noticed that I could feel the over-rotation on both the upstroke and downstroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modex Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Here's a video demo of what I'm talking about. I'm probably just over thinking a non-issue. I just want to make sure my baby is okay. Edited April 12, 2012 by modex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 It is a non-issue - they are all like that. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwyn Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) I agree it is probably a non-issue. If you back off the set screw that limits the hand rotating the shell plate, the tool head rotation will probably go away, but be careful as you may replace the tool head rotation with over rotation of the shell plate. When the hand hits the stop, if the press is not at full stroke, the ram has to rotate as the cam pushes further on the lever. Sherwyn Edited April 14, 2012 by Sherwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 That's exactly what mine does Modex. If Brian says it's good to go that's good enough for me! Thanks Brian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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