The_Vigilante Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I will be taking possession of this revolver tomorrow. Can I shoot it in ESR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I am not sure you can safely make 165000 pf in a snubbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaritx Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) You can shoot it in ESR provided that your 9mm makes 165,000 power factor ......and not sure that it will do so safely. I also believe that if it is the 5 shot version that you would be at a disadvantage with the 6 round revolvers with often one extra reload. With the moon clips it would not be able to be shot SSR IMO Garry Ted...you beat me to it <G> Edited April 4, 2012 by solaritx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Get some 9mm federal brass and shoot it in ssr. I have shot a number of matches in IDPA with a 5 shooter. My goal is not to be last place, and that can be tough. Those extra reloads hurt you, and the smaller revos are not the fastest to reload either. Ted Edited April 4, 2012 by Ted Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Problem 1: 9mm Federal is not 9mm Auto Rim. It has standard thickness rim, less than the rim+clip of 9mm P in that gun. That is going to lead to excessive cartridge headspace and likely misfires, maybe backed out primers binding cylinder rotation. Problem 2: Where you gonna GET 9mm Federal? There never was a lot made and that years ago. Problem 3: Addendum "Ammunition used must match the caliber listed on the gun." might be taken to prevent substitute brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisenhow Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I am not sure you can safely make 165000 pf in a snubbie a gun of MAXIMUM barrel length for the DIVISION of the same gun type. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaritx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I am not sure you can safely make 165000 pf in a snubbie a gun of MAXIMUM barrel length for the DIVISION of the same gun type. FIFY As indicated by discussions on this list about WHO is responsible for the supply of the gun with MAXIMUM barrel length for the DIVISION of the same gun type means that the SHOOTER is responsible for bringing a 9mm Revolver of Maximum barrel length. That is a problem. Hopefully Tiger Team will address that ammo will have to make PF out of the gun the shooter is using. Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisenhow Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Just bring a S&W547 to the chrono. (No I don't own one, but I know a guy who does. I don't think he'd let me shoot 9 major out of it though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Thanks for the comments. Looks like if I want to shoot this in IDPA it will be for fun. How would it work out in USPSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z Sr Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 You could shoot it in USPSA, but with only 5 rounds, you will not place very well. It would be fun though, and give you plenty or reload practice. In USPSA, you make power factor in YOUR gun, not some one else's, so it might be tough in a short barrel. You can just shoot it minor with regular safe 9MM loads, have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the comments. Looks like if I want to shoot this in IDPA it will be for fun. How would it work out in USPSA? If you want to be competitive use it in BUG matches. If your looking for a whipping or you just want to be different on the way to DFL why not shoot a contender? Edited April 5, 2012 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I'd soot it in a USPSA match or two, heck I even shot two matches with a Rossi 5 shot 44 special (reloading the semi wad cutters was really slow, like 8 seconds) if your local club is like mine you may even win revolver division (and get last place revolver division). Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) I recently shot the SP101 9mm in a local BUG match and was advised by the Match Director that a moon-clipped revolver was against the IDPA rules for a BUG Match. What the H*ll!! Whatever!! Note: This is not an easy gun to shoot DA-recoil is more than I thought it would be!!! Edited May 24, 2012 by The_Vigilante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisenhow Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I recently shot the SP101 9mm in a local BUG match and was advised by the Match Director that a moon-clipped revolver was against the IDPA rules for a BUG Match. What the H*ll!! Whatever!! Note: This is not an easy gun to shoot DA-recoil is more than I thought it would be!!! BS. Since no reloads are required/allowed in BUG stages I can't imagine how it could matter. I know a guy who shoots a 3" S&W 625 in bug matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I recently shot the SP101 9mm in a local BUG match and was advised by the Match Director that a moon-clipped revolver was against the IDPA rules for a BUG Match. Ask him to show you the rule that outlaws moon clipped revolvers. BUG Handguns permitted for use in this division must: A. Be single or double action. B. Be either pistol or revolver. C. Be .32 auto or larger. D. Have a barrel length: 1. Semi-automatic, 3.8” or less (factory installed cone style barrels with or without a barrel bushing are permitted). 2. Revolver 3” or less. E. Maximum (total) number of rounds that may be loaded into the handgun is five (5). PERMITTED Modifications (Inclusive list): 1. Revolvers: A. Sights to another conventional notch and post type (see “sights” in glossary for further information). B. Grips to another style or material that is similar to factory configuration (no weighted grips). C. Action work to enhance trigger pull as long as safety is maintained. D. Bob hammer spur. E. Chamfer cylinder. F. Custom finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bshooter Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I had a chance to get a SP101 in 9mm a number of years ago and passed it up. Kicking myself ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Neat guns, for sure. I looked hard for a 4" 9mm Speed Six, back before they split the Revolver divisions. Just as well I didn't find one, or buy the .38 Super revolver S&W had for a while, what with the move to ESR Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 The Ruger Speed Six 9mm w/4" barrels are extremely difficult to find and those that have them don't want to sell even for a premium price-ask me. I was able to find the Speed Six 9mm with the 2 3/4" barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I know. I trawled Numrich and other parts dealers for a 9mm cylinder with the idea of converting a 4" .357 to 9mm. As I said, just as well none of that worked out, a sub-.40 ESR is not practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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