Nightrod Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I had my CZ shadow Target just about 2 months now. I'm seing few marks of metal bubble in the frame (rail left side) and to the slide (inner Cut), it's not just a thought-image its true. Is there anybody there having the same problem or seing the same metal marks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 you have a picture of what that looks like. is it the metal or the polycoat that has a bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrod Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 you have a picture of what that looks like. is it the metal or the polycoat that has a bubble. It's the metal for sure, not a scrath..a real deep hole.i will post a magnified picture later . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerlrrp Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Perocity is not uncommon in cast parts (I'm pretty sure those frames are cast steel). Usually additional allowance is made so that the part is stronger than it need be to overcome this occurance. It's very expensive and tedious to inspect 100% internally. In your case, it sounds like a surface defect which should have been caught but anything is possible when it comes to humans. I'd send the picture to CZ USA and get there opinion, but if you are not comfortable with it, I'd ask for another. Just my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrod Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 http://www.flickr.com/photos/78551829@N05/7034036573/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nightrod Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 i know it wasn't much of a problem but cosmetically, it will be too obvious when check the gun.. and when you open the slide the BIG bubble packet will be right infront of you eye. just asking if its normal ( bubble packing may be or casting problem) Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleL Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Just ask CzUsa or CzCustom about your issue. From my experience and from what I've read, you will get good info from either source. Follow up on it, maybe you got "the one" that slipped through QC. Anything is possible. To err is human. Thankfully, you have options to solve your problem. Maybe a new pistol is in your future, maybe not. Contact the appropriate people and either way you will get an answer. You have a pistol from a manufacturer with a pretty solid reputation in the customer service area. Use the opportunity for answers. No bubbles on my Shadow. I would ask about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrod Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks for the info. I will definitely update this forum whatever possible solution they may come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerlrrp Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I can't identify the perocity on the slide (that would concern me as I belive it's billet or forge), but the frame is definately a screw up in my opinion. I think it would be ok for shooting, but given the price you paid I'd want a new one. Maybe even one of those new tan t-shirts for the trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walküre Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Looks like the frame issue is in the polycoat to me. Not sure what you are calling out on the slide, unless it is the polycoat wear on the "overhang" of the rail (the part that contacts the top of the frame) in front of the rear serrations. Nothing on the slide appears out of the ordinary to me, at least from what I can discern in those photos. BTW huskerlrrp, the word you are looking for is "porosity"; that is, how porous the casting is (its percentage of voids). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerlrrp Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Looks like the frame issue is in the polycoat to me. Not sure what you are calling out on the slide, unless it is the polycoat wear on the "overhang" of the rail (the part that contacts the top of the frame) in front of the rear serrations. Nothing on the slide appears out of the ordinary to me, at least from what I can discern in those photos. BTW huskerlrrp, the word you are looking for is "porosity"; that is, how porous the casting is (its percentage of voids). Thanks Walküre, A Masters in Engineering but not in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMH Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Seen 2 here locally just like it, in the rail area of the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Seen 2 here locally just like it, in the rail area of the frame. so what is it? blem in the polycoat? or bubble in the steel casting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMH Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Both had several holes. Looked like casting flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Both had several holes. Looked like casting flaws. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrod Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 UPDATE: Got answer from CZ Custom i will send it to them and if they find out that its really a casting problem, a new piece will be in its way when they have it available, about 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrod Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Update, no reply yet up to now. while waiting... Number of CZ gun with casting problem keep on increasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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