TRG65 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I got an STI Trojan 9mm about 3 years ago. However, due to deployments and other training requirements, I've only used the gun less than a year in an off and on manner. Ever since I got the gun it has not been 100% reliable. I load a 147JHP to about 1.135, it is a silly accurate load in the gun. I'm stuck with the bullet, because on a really good deal I bought a bunch several years ago before the prices doubled. I have tried Wilson ETM, Tripp, and Metalform 10 round mags. I've tried various spring weights. I've sent the gun to Virgil Tripp to have the feed ramp recut. Would a new barrel probably solve the problem? Is there anything else I can try? Because of the number of bullets I have on hand a new barrel would probably be cheaper than changing out the bullets. All the issues are first or second round nose dives jams. Thanks Seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZip Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Seth, Sell the bullets! Someone somewhere wants them, and you may lose a little, but in the long run, it will be worth it. Changing the gun for the bullets? How many and what type are we talking? If you were near me, I'm sure we could find you a buyer local and avoid the shipping hassles. JZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunshineST Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Have you tried leaving the mags loaded for a few weeks? Let the springs settle a little maybe, that could help. Does it happen on less than fully loaded mags? I really want to make a car analogy somehow...like making e a Ferrari run 87 octane unleaded just because you have a few barrels, then trying to solve the engine timing issues. Buy some new gas! I'll second Jimmy....but... Is it likely that you'll buy the same bullets after you shoot this batch? Or will you find a new load? If you're married to this round, set the gun up for it...but to me it sounds like throwing good money after bad! If Virgil couldn't make it sing, sell the bullets...I know there are many good smiths out there, but he's certainly one of the best on a 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Adjust your OAL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Change OAL to about 1.175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkguy Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 have the barrel throated, that solved the feeding issues in my spartan. it sounds like the mag springs are really tight causing to much upward tension on the rounds as they are being stripped off. Leave the mags loaded for a week as others suggest and see if that solves the problem. As much as we hate to admit it, 9mm 1911's are fickle and take a while to get running right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Change OAL to about 1.175 I got a Trojan 9mm set up by Benny several years and thousands of rounds ago. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 just use a different bullet. A round nose bullet will provide the best cure for nosedive feeding problems. the bullet should be hard, so jacketed is best and cast will often perform well, but avoid plated and swaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Use the 9rd Metalforms that Springfield gives with their gun. You will give up a round but it will work 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I just recently shot my Spartan with my reloads. 147gr @ 1.15, try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRG65 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 What is the length that fits in the Wilson ETMs? I've got about 4k loaded as described, because that is what I use for my other 9s. I've got about 14k more waiting to be loaded. I'll have the mags loaded and let them sit until I get back. I was inquiring about mechanical fixes, because I've got some time where I won't be using that gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babaganoosh Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Loading a mag up and letting it sit does not break in the springs. Springs need to be compressed and released repeatedly to break em in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie j Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 You may look at trying an EGW higher mag catch, it fixes the same problem in .40 trojans , and at 30 bucks its cheaper than a whole lot of other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunshineST Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 What is the length that fits in the Wilson ETMs? I've got about 4k loaded as described, because that is what I use for my other 9s. I've got about 14k more waiting to be loaded. I'll have the mags loaded and let them sit until I get back. I was inquiring about mechanical fixes, because I've got some time where I won't be using that gun. The fact that this happens on the first or second round seems to flag this as a mag issue, IMHO. I agree with others suggesting a longer load, but, it sounds like the OAL isn't an issue past the first or second round...right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmw5142 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Buy a few hundred of a couple different bullets. If one of those solve your problem, sell the JHP'S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I have a 9mm Trojan also. I had good luck with the Wilson mags once I cut two coils off, bent the end of the spring under the follower. Might check extractor tension. I ended up putting an Aftec in mine to get it to run 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 My 9mm Spartan chows down 135 grain round nose bullets all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perjohn Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I've been loading lead 147 gr. flat points @ 1.15 in my trojan with no issues. It runs just like a glock, lol. Maybe try a longer oal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 What is the length that fits in the Wilson ETMs? I've got about 4k loaded as described, because that is what I use for my other 9s. I've got about 14k more waiting to be loaded. I'll have the mags loaded and let them sit until I get back. I was inquiring about mechanical fixes, because I've got some time where I won't be using that gun. The fact that this happens on the first or second round seems to flag this as a mag issue, IMHO. I agree with others suggesting a longer load, but, it sounds like the OAL isn't an issue past the first or second round...right? It's also possible that if there is room in the magazine, after a shot, or two, the rounds are skating forward in the magazine. I would do the "plunk" test, and see how long the ammo can be loaded, and make it a smidgen shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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