Hammertime Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I am trying to reload 9mm on my RL1050. I am using Lee sizing and decapping die, Lee bullet seater, and a Lee factory crimp die. I currently do not have a case gauge so I am using my barrel for the gauge. When I deprime and size the brass it will fit in the chamber of the pistol. But when I seat the bullet and crimp the bullet it will not seat in the chamber. It goes all but the last couple thousands of a inch. Any help? this is all range pick up brass. I have reload over 20,000 38 super rounds and almost that many 45's. Just reloaded 3000 .40 cal. with out a hic-up and never had this issue. What is up with this 9mm crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Sounds like you may need to reduce the OAL a little more until it drops in the champer with no resistance. What bullets are you using and what pistol are you using? Edited March 18, 2012 by The_Vigilante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Barrel of what gun? If your gun is a CZ, the rifling is a lot closer to the chamber of the gun, so you'll need to shorten your OAL. I'm not sure, but I think the same is true for the Beretta 92FS, as well. It's been ages since I owned one and reloaded ammo for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Pistolero Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I was loading for a friends P9 on my 1050. I had the same problem that you are having. I finally determined that it was the crimp. I had the crimp die set too low and it was bulging the base of the case. I backed off the crimp die and from then on, all the rounds were fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Barrel is out of a 40XD. OAL is 1.120 Oal should not be to long. It is at the base that it will not fit. Seems that the seating of the bullet make a bulge at the base. Edited March 18, 2012 by Hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Hunter Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 What bullets and what pistol? +1. Probably too long, but without knowing which specific bullet, caliber and gun, it's tough to diagnose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcracco Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Barrel is out of a 40XD. OAL is 1.120 Oal should not be to long. It is at the base that it will not fit. Seems that the seating of the bullet make a bulge at the base. I can't imagine how seating a bullet can bulge the base unless you are seating at worp speed and it sends a shock wave down the length of the case. If you think the base is bulging can you measure before and after bullet seating? Like the other guys said it sounds like OAL needs shortening. Where did 1.120" come from? I use 1.075" because at 1.085" the bullet is touching the rifling (in my SL barrel with my BB 124gn FNHB bullet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) The barrel is out of a .40cal XD, but you're loading 9mm? What!? XD's are known to need shorter OAL to work. Edited March 18, 2012 by polizei1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I believe that 1.120" isn't excessively long for .40 because the SAAMI spec is 1.135". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The barrel is out of a .40cal XD, but you're loading 9mm? What!? XD's are known to need shorter OAL to work. +1 Or he maybe like those guys in New Jersey who are mixing and matching 9mm and .40 mags for their Glocks to get around state capacity issues. (I can't find the thread right now.) If mixing and matching mags works for them, why not barrels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csiedmond1 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I am trying to reload 9mm on my RL1050. I am using Lee sizing and decapping die, Lee bullet seater, and a Lee factory crimp die. I currently do not have a case gauge so I am using my barrel for the gauge. When I deprime and size the brass it will fit in the chamber of the pistol. What is up with this 9mm crap? Try dillon dies! It is 9mm right? Barrel is out of a 40XD. Where did the 40XD come from if you are loading 9mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 LOL, Sorry guys it is a XD40 but I have a a aftermarket 9mm barrel that I have been using in it for years without a hitch. I am using Alliant Unique powder and the OAl is what they recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polizei1 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'd try loading shorter, or you could try measuring where the lands and grooves start and load them a little bit shorter. Hopefully that'll work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 I have tried seating the bullet deeper OAL of 1.080 and still will not seat. Again seems to hit about 1/16th above the extractor groove. wihtout seating the bullet the case drops right in. Want dies are you guys using? I have tried Lee and both RCBS nothing works. Also switched dies from 1050 to my 550 to see if that made any difference. Ands of course it did not. Stumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter57 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 You may not have enough bell on the case when you seat the bullet causing the bullet to put pressure on the case and pushing it out near the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Go a little bit shorter to 1.075 or even 1.070 and see if that makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I guess I would test before crimping (and also with a lighter crimp), and I would also spend a few minutes verifying the bullet is not hitting the rifling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niedlaw Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) More than likely the bullet your using is hitting the lands of the rifling. I had this problem with my Para LDA, Winchester White Box bullets would drop right in but the 125 gr Zero bullet wouldn't due to it having a different shape. To resolve the problem I had to use a chamber reamer to removes a small portion of the rifling. Edited March 19, 2012 by niedlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Hunter Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Who made the after market bbl.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Don't mix your problems - pull the barrel out of the gun and try resized empty cases - if they hang up your can GR them, buy roll sized, or use the Lee set up ( Basically the same as the GR die set up). After you get that problem solved, then load a few rounds and drop them into your barrel and see if the case head ends up flush with the barrel hood. If not, shorten a few and keep trying them until you get the proper length. I suggest the barrel instead of the case gauge as you want to shoot them in the gun and not the case gauge and they aren't always the same inside diameter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 If you have a tight chamber try Lee's U die. Might try setting the belling/powder through die a little tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Played with it alittle more this afternoon. I kept seating a litle deeper them a little deeper. Wholly crap with the Montana Gold 121's I had to seat it clear to the part where the bullet tapers is this normal. Seems like it is going to make acompreesed load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 That sounds extreme. Load up a dummy and color the bullet with a sharpie. Drop it in the chamber of your barrel and twist. You should be able to see where it is touching IF that is indeed the problem What is the oal on that 121 load you ended up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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