ihatepickles Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I find it interesting everyone always refers to Glocks as if they are the only guns that will swell brass. I hear you Lee and I do realize Glock isn't the only one out there spitting out guppy belly brass. The term Glock'ed isn't going away anytime soon though amongst reloaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I find it interesting everyone always refers to Glocks as if they are the only guns that will swell brass. I hear you Lee and I do realize Glock isn't the only one out there spitting out guppy belly brass. The term Glock'ed isn't going away anytime soon though amongst reloaders. I only own one Glock and seldom shoot bottom feeders anymore. I do appreciate all the Glocked brass. One pass through my sizer and my 610 never knows the difference. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Mitch: Here's a 6 year old G35 barrel and it's as supported as most and better than some. Being a wheelie myself, the chambers in a cylinder of most revolvers is more generous than a bottomfeeder, so regular sizing would be OK for a revolver. I don't bother roll sizing 38/357 or 45ACP for revolver, but I do roll size 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP for bottonfeeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Any update on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I find it interesting everyone always refers to Glocks as if they are the only guns that will swell brass. Lol. I think the only fully supported chamber is a case gauge. Glocks are for sure less supported and other guns are more supported but it seems people think Glocks = no support and everything else = 100% support. Lee I agree. Anyone that uses a case gauge knows that the #1 cause of a "fail", is the rim of the case. Many times one can insert the case backwards and give it a twist, then it will pass. I would think that a sizing die that sizes to 1/8" of the base would do more to cause work hardening, resulting in case head separation as a roll size die that is working mostly on the rim and somewhat on the lower (thicker) part of the case. Cut a few in half and take a look at the cross section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Just cut a random (9mm) case in half and noticed a ridge inside of it and a head that seemed thicker than I had seen in the past. The head stamp of the left case is "IMT" and if you can see in the photos has two "steps in it that a normal case does not have. .028" difference in head thickness + the reduced volume caused by the two steps thicker, further reducing case volume. In any case (no pun intended) a "normal" case is almost 3/16" thick before you can begin to effect a case head seperation and as above most all fail a case gauge at the rim itself. Edited June 30, 2014 by jmorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Another photo of the thick and stepped case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 There's another headstamp besides the IMT that has that internal belt - Ammoload. I can't help but think that such cases will have different ballistics, both internal and external, with a recipe that assumes normal interior case volume. When I run across these cases (I check the HS of every piece of brass I process). they get set aside. When I get to a substantial #, I will shoot them up after working up a load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why1504 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 If the 40 S&W brass fits in my L.E. Wilson Max Cartrige gague will it fit in any 40 S&W? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 If the 40 S&W brass fits in my L.E. Wilson Max Cartrige gague will it fit in any 40 S&W? It will fit any 40 S&W with the same dimensions (or larger) than your gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why1504 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 If the 40 S&W brass fits in my L.E. Wilson Max Cartrige gague will it fit in any 40 S&W? It will fit any 40 S&W with the same dimensions (or larger) than your gauge. OK, would you expect the gague be at the tightest specifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Some are mfg to the "tightest/smallest" SAAMI spec, others to the "largest" SAAMI spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohn Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) Just cut a random (9mm) case in half and noticed a ridge inside of it and a head that seemed thicker than I had seen in the past. The head stamp of the left case is "IMT" and if you can see in the photos has two "steps in it that a normal case does not have. .028" difference in head thickness + the reduced volume caused by the two steps thicker, further reducing case volume. In any case (no pun intended) a "normal" case is almost 3/16" thick before you can begin to effect a case head seperation and as above most all fail a case gauge at the rim itself. Sorry I have to ask this...........However I can not seem to understand, how do you cut the case in half (meaning instructions and equipment)? I do not have a ban saw and that is the only way I could comprehend. Also, if I did have a ban I would not do it for safety reasons. Edited July 13, 2014 by mjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowShooter Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Sorry I have to ask this...........how do you cut the case in half (meaning instructions and equipment)? I do not have a ban saw... I'm not the OP, but ... I have cut cases in half to see the inside ("sectioning a case"). I use a dremel tool with a cutoff wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 If the 40 S&W brass fits in my L.E. Wilson Max Cartrige gague will it fit in any 40 S&W? It will fit any 40 S&W with the same dimensions (or larger) than your gauge. OK, would you expect the gague be at the tightest specifications? I have no first hand experience with the Wilson 40 S&W gauge, but if I had to hazard a guess, I imagine that gauge is at the loosest specification, therefore anything that fits it should work in theory if the chamber is no tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskillo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 My custom built push thru sizer takes care of the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Sorry I have to ask this...........However I can not seem to understand, how do you cut the case in half (meaning instructions and equipment)? I do not have a ban saw and that is the only way I could comprehend. Also, if I did have a ban I would not do it for safety reasons. I had a dowel clamped in a vise on my roll in saw. Just slip the case over the end and cut. You are correct that having your fingers that close to a powered cutting device being a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicocrawler Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Wow...this thread got HIGHJACKED...only a few people answered the OPs question I would buy one for 250 if It had case feeder capability Could do different calibers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Wow...this thread got HIGHJACKED...only a few people answered the OPs question I would buy one for 250 if It had case feeder capability Could do different calibers Perhaps, but you brought back a hijacked thread that was dead for a second time. The OP never posted in the thread again from 2 1/2 years ago and they aren't very active in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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