Dr.J Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I want to begin in IDPA and Steel competition and am torn between purchasing a G17 or STI 9mm Trojan. I understand that they are completely different guns. Since this will be my first year, I want to focus on technique, not constantly fiddling with the gun. Which gun, if either, would be preferable? Are there enhancements, e.g., fiber-optic front sight, ambidextrous safety, etc you would recommend. Your help is appreciated. Thanks Dr.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CE325 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Both are completly different pistols. I don't know too much about the STI but I have a glock 17 and you can get anything and everything for it you will need. In my opinion the Glock is more affordable pistol to start with in competition shooting. Although the 1911 has a much nicer trigger pull to start with! But you can modify the trigger on the Glock also. Good luck with whatever you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 In my opinion, choosing the G17 will result in less fiddling. My suggestion to people though is to buy the gun that they fall in love with for their first gun. It'll get you to the range more often to practice. It'll get you more familiar with your gun. Whatever your choice, have fun and get out there and shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perjohn Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I have a G34 and a 9mm Trojan. While it's true that glocks just keep running, no matter what, I can honestly say that my Trojan hasn't given me any problems. I think it comes down to the fact that I leave my guns stock, and don't really mess with them. The glock is definitely the more affordable of the two, but in my opinion shooting the Trojan is more fun. If you can, try to shoot both and see which one you like the best. Don't let all the stories of finicky 1911s sway you, a lot of people create their own problems. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS101 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 You can probably by the Glock and a case of ammo for the price of the Trojan. If you are just getting into the sport, this is probably the more beneficial direction to go... For only a little more than the Glock (about $200 more) you can get the Spartan. The Spartan gets good reviews ans is an excellent starter gun. However, if money is not an issue, get the Trojan from either Dawson on Brazos, and have them work their magic on it. Then you will have a true "competition gun" (this is coming from a person who shoots a 34 SSP, Steel Challenge and Production as well as shooting a 24 in Limited and L10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Every shooter in the world should own a 9mm Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.J Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Getting closer to pulling the trigger (pun intended) on a 9mm Trojan. They are however few and far between. Would a stock Trojan put me at a competitive disadvantage? How critical is it that I have an ambi-safety? One more push and I'll be ready to buy. I appreciate your help. Dr.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 If you are a lefty, then an ambi-safety is a must. Otherwise, consider how many times you've had to draw, transfer to weak hand, and shoot. If you never put your finger in the trigger guard, unless you are on target, it shouldn't matter if you flip the safety off before you transfer to the weak hand. On the other hand, if you would feel better having the safety on during that transfer, having the ambi-safety will be an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Ambi safety can always be added.. it you want/need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.J Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks for the push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perjohn Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 You don't need ambis for steel challenge, and you'd just have to disengage the safety before transitioning to your weak hand if you're required to shoot weakhand in idpa. I usually do that anyway, it's just nice to have that safety to ride. I think with some good mags(wilson, tripp, or metalform), you'd be in good shape with a stock gun. Are you reloading yet? If not, I'd probably buy the glock and use the rest for a 550. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Right out of the box you will have a better triger with the STI Trojan but on the minus side it is a SA pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 The Trojan as stated has a much better trigger than the Glock. For a new shooter I think the Trojan will enable you to become a better shooter sooner because it will be much easier to master a good trigger press with the single action 1911 trigger. Some people have a problem with the grip angle on the Glock, I am one of them. I would buy the Trojan and never look back, it is an excellent gun right out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astephenson Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Just remember you'll only be able to shoot the Trojan in ESP, but the Glock can fit in both SSP and ESP. Don't get me wrong- I love my 9mm Trojan, but if you're only going to buy one gun I would recommend the Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZ Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I lean towards the Glock in this particular thread. No need to add a ambi-safety on the Glock. Grip angle IS a concern though....make sure you get a chance to handle the gun you choose prior to purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbauer67 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Every shooter in the world should own a 9mm Glock. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmw5142 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Every shooter in the world should own a 9mm Glock. Or six... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.J Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Purchased an STI Trojan 9mm from Shooters Connection. After paying for the gun, I received a call informing me that they had either good news or bad news for me, oh boy, The good news/bad news was that upon inspecting the gun prior to shipping they noticed that it had an ambi-safety that they had not been charged for and did I still want the gun for the original price. Needless to say I am very pleased with Shooters Connection. Since this is my first 1911, what do I need to do to get it ready to shoot this weekend? Any special cleaning and lubricating tips? I plan on lubing the rails with STOS, is that satisfactory. Once again, your comments would be much appreciated. Thanks Dr.J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Excellent choice on the gun. The F/O sight is a nice upgrade when you ready. I use slide glide on my trojan and I thin it with spray on remoil. I spray the rails and barrel with the remoil and then apply the slide glide. The I work the slide a few times and wipe off the excess. The gun is SMOOOOTH I can't really give you cleaning tips...I am a shooter, not a cleaner. I wipe off the old slide glide and apply new. My Trojan which I bought used off the forum didn't have front cocking serrations. This weekend I realized the F/O sight was lose. I called STI to see what sight I needed to order from Dawson and he said I'll just send you one. I mentioned the front serrations and he said send the slide, we will cut the serrations re-blue the slide and send it back.... NO CHARGE! Edited March 15, 2012 by Paul-the new guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB45 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Well my answer to the OP's question would be to get both. Both platforms are good. If its not financially possible now, buy the cheaper option now and save for the other. Best of both worlds. I think its benefial to shoot more then one platform. It keeps me focused on the fundamentals. CB45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Every shooter in the world should own a 9mm Glock. Absolutely. In addition every shooter should own at least 1 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lnxgeek Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Every shooter in the world should own a 9mm Glock. Absolutely. In addition every shooter should own at least 1 1911. This ONE 1911 should be in .45 acp or 9mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcCracken Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Every shooter in the world should own a 9mm Glock. Absolutely. In addition every shooter should own at least 1 1911. This ONE 1911 should be in .45 acp or 9mm? The ONE 1911 should be .45, any extras can be whatever. It's like owning a sports coat. Every guy needs a blue blazer. You don't start with the green paisley blazer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 At least 1 1911. The First one should be a 5" steel .45. After that they will accumulate in all the other calibers, sizes and materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlsvt Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 How many 9 mm rounds does that Trojan hold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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