Tman33_99 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I am sure most clubs have memberships to their clubs that get discount fees for club members that is seperate from range membership. What I am really after is what is a fairly standard charge for range use that goes to the host range from the club. Some ranges may charge per event, but I think most charge the club per user or shooter as the case may be. A local range that hosts USPSA and IDPA is significantly raising their fees for each shooter. Many locally feel it is unreasonably high, but would like to get a gauge as to what is the norm in many other locals. Thanks in Advance Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I don't know what "standard charge for range use that goes to the host range from the club" really means , but this gives me a chance to talk about our section's new policy.... We (they) now charge $20.00 for newer shooters who don't have their RO cards, and $15 for shooters who have been able to attend an RO class. This doesn't mean you even have to hold a timer that day, just as long as you have an RO card in your wallet you pay less per match than those who don't. The price used to be $15, but the $5 dollar increase was adopted by "the board" (3 people maybe?) and no one seems to know where the extra revenue is going, or what it's being spent on. I hope the $5 "tea tax" is actually buying props and/or range improvements...just don't know. I suppose their position would be that I don't even have the right to know, maybe they're right... Wheew, feel better thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman33_99 Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Here is the way I understand the fees. The USPSA, IPSC, or IDPA club is a non-profit organization. A shooter shows up to shoot a match and pays X, Y or Z depending on many things. But the club has to cover the following from the fees it charges to cover the match: Props, Targets, USPSA charges such as classifer, tape, AND USE of the RANGE. I believe the ranges usually charge per shooter (some my charge per club match). This is the fee that is going considerably higher at one of our ranges (going from $3.00 to $10.00 per shooter). It is this charge that the RANGE charges that I am really intersted in. Many shooters may not even know what that is, but club officers should know. Thanks Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Tom, Is that a match/range policy, or the SECTION policy? I think the USPSA by-laws (which would trump your section by-laws) only allow a maximum of $1 per shooter, per match to go to the section. And, I think those funds can only be used for expenses related to running the Section Coordinators office. Now...how the section defines "expenses of running the office" is open to debate (is it an SC's office expense to buy steel?) Send up the red flag...sound the bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Tman, We give all of the money to the "club", they pay the expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Local matches are all at privately-owned (and not by the IPSC club) ranges. The range gets from $3 (one range) $5 (3 ranges) to $8 (one range) per shooter at a match. Using extra bays or range props cost extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman33_99 Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Thank You Shred....That is exactly the kind of info I am looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Hmmm..., I should have read your post first, before voting $7-10 w/ a member's discount. My reply was for IPSC practice, which has a public draw and shoot line, a practice stage, both run with RO's, and separate bays for member RO's only, with the same fees applying to the rifle and pistol ranges elsewhere on the property, which are open to members and to the public. Match fees though, are $20 for members and $25 for nonmembers, with club officers (whose tireless efforts keep the club running) and stage builders shooting for free. The match fees are about average, I think, for the clubs in the Northern CA section. Our action pistol range not only hosts IPSC matches twice a month, but also cowboy, IDPA, ICORE, and IPSC approved 3 gun, shotgun and rifle only matches. Classes are also taught at the range, and multiple police agencies pay fees to use the range. The national organization gets its cut, and, I believe, so does the host club that owns the property where the IPSC range is located. Both the host club and the IPSC club are financially sound, given all the paid activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I couldn't vote, but thought you would like the following: At one range the fee for shooters who do not belong, i.e., have an annual membership to the range, is $7 per day. You have access to 4 ranges at the facility. Another range hosts several clubs, and sponsors two of its own. The profits from the two sponsored clubs go the the range. The hosted clubs pay $4 to $5 per shooter at their monthly matches. One club meets there only occasionally and pays a flat $100 fee for use of the range for their one day match. Hope this helps, Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 The Mid-Atlantic Section Fees for USPSA matches are $25 for non-USPSA members, $20 for USPSA members. There are discounts for juniors, husbands/wives shooting the match together; a shooter joining USPSA at the match fills out the application, pays the applicable USPSA membership fee, and shoots the match for free. Additionally the clubs that own the ranges may set a discounted admission rate for their members --- which is usually $15.- (In essence this means I pay $ 15.- to shoot a match at my home club; and I pay $ 20.- at any other club in the section.) The matches pay division winners $30.- as long as there are five shooters in the division, class winners within a division get paid $20.- as long as there are three shooters in the class. As match co-director, we pay our own ongoing expenses (prizes, activity fees, targets, tape, sticks, staples, etc.) and are required to turn a profit of 25% of gross receipts for the club. If we need something big --- swingers, new steel targets, etc. we get to petition the board of directors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dminor Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Our local club here in MN charges $5 per shooter at a monthly match. Area 3 pays $20 per shooter to the host club of the Area 3 match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Memphis Sport Shooting Assoc. $10 for club members, $12.00 for non club members, $8.00 for yoots. lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Our club is $12.00 for club members and $15.00 for non-mambers, accept when we have an all classifier match and the fees are higher. I don't hink these fees are out of line at all. I also know that USPSA shooting is THE SINGLE LARGEST source of income for our club. That is for both the monthly matches, and our Thursday night league shoots. I have gone to a few club shoots where the match fee has been $20.00 or more, and it just depends on the match whether or not I think that is to high. $20.00 for 4 short and so-so stages is high. However, if they have say 6 or 7 really good stages that it is aspparent a lot of work went into then no big deal. Hell, I have paid as little as $15.00 to shoot 6 good stages as a club level match, and then paid $80.00 to shoot 8 Ho-Hum stages at sectional shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 IDPA - $10 USPSA - $15 Our club makes no distinction for members/nonmembers on match day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Folks - he is asking what the range charges your shooting club per shooter for use of the range. eg. - If your match fee is $20, how much of that $20 is paid back to the range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve223 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 At my home club we pay the range owner (private range) 3 bucks a shooter for a match, Members can practice any time free. All the money we pay him goes back into range improvements. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRD Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Our match fees are $20 non-member, $15 member. Usually 5-6 stages on 3 bays. All the money goes to us in the IDPA club. - Gabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Since our range is owned by the members, and is a co-op with the park district, there is no charge from the club to the people who put on the match. In effect, the match is put on by the range. Or another way to say it is that there is no distinction between the range and the shooting club, one in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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