Shadowrider Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The gun: I was/am still considering converting to .40SW but the wait time will be considerably shorter if I just set it up for .38 Super. I could likely shoot it the rest of this year. If I go .40SW it will likely be mid/late May at the very earliest before I can be running with this thing. The problem is that if I go .38 Super I will want ports which if I understand correctly will put this gun in open division permanently. The ports will also likely make reboring to .40 impossible. It's a 6 shot and I know that's a liability in open, but what revo in open isn't? The optic is far better with my eyes and may or may not be permanent, it all depends on how much fun I have dabbling in open division with a revo but I will be putting on one of Toolguy's FO fronts IF I decide on .40. So what would you do? Go open and stay there or just deal with the time frame and do .40SW so you can shoot revo or open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I will be the first to ask. What is wrong with just leaving the caliber it already is? Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) I will be the first to ask. What is wrong with just leaving the caliber it already is? Lee Case length and reload times if shooting major which is what I want to do with it. .357 mags ain't fast to reload and shooting 175 rounds of them ain't fun either. Plus the ROs get cranky. Edited February 24, 2012 by Shadowrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No.343 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 What about option three - buy another gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry V Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Leave it the way it is and learn to shoot it. I made A class shooting a 5" version with full length 38spl/132 pf using Starline brass, Hearhco .025" clips and 158grRN. It can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 What about option three - buy another gun. This was meant I think as somewhat of a joke, but there is a lot of truth to it. By the time you get it modded, assuming it does work out as intended, moon clips are spendy for a setup like that and in the end it will not be as competitive. A 625, 610 or 627 would pay for itself quickly in the cost of clips and headache/wait me thinks. Just my opinion. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) for major loads 5"gun the 625 is king--if you want a 6" gun buy the 610,40s&w,major load not bad to shoot--my $.02 if you want to shoot minor in open the 627,or 686--38 super would be my choice,and if you don't like if later you can sell and get some of your money back for another game,,but if you build a Frankenstein gun you will have it forever..second thought !!! Edited February 24, 2012 by EEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Convert it to 40 and report back I know S&W had factory 40's for awhile, but I am not sure I have seen a conversion done yet. I know Clements will convert a GP100 , but not an L Frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 You can have it cut for moon clips for about $100.00 plus shipping. What would be the difference between doing this, and shooting a moonclipped 38 Super? For that matter, you could cut down 38SPL brass to 38 Super length and shoot it in the moonclipped cylinder. Then, you could experiment with the Short Colt loads later on when you decide to try something different again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 for major loads 5"gun the 625 is king--if you want a 6" gun buy the 610,40s&w,major load not bad to shoot--my $.02 if you want to shoot minor in open the 627,or 686--38 super would be my choice,and if you don't like if later you can sell and get some of your money back for another game,,but if you build a Frankenstein gun you will have it forever..second thought !!! I have a very nice 5" 625, but the N frames just feel like slugs to me. K frames are the ultimate DA revolver IMO. The L frame is somewhere in the middle but not too far from K. I believe the cylinder for an L frame weighs just as much as a N frame, but after you load them up I'm not sure. What I am sure of is the big honking cylinder on the N frame does seem to have much more inertia. They just feel sluggish to me. You can have it cut for moon clips for about $100.00 plus shipping. What would be the difference between doing this, and shooting a moonclipped 38 Super? For that matter, you could cut down 38SPL brass to 38 Super length and shoot it in the moonclipped cylinder. Then, you could experiment with the Short Colt loads later on when you decide to try something different again. I'm actually thinking along these lines now. I have 500 rounds of brand new Starline .357 mag brass. I wouldn't mind trimming it since this will be a moonclip gun and can keep track of my brass. I could also play with it with speedloaders while making up my mind. I still think .40 is the way to go, but I'm just so impatient. Sometimes I just piss myself off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I'm actually thinking along these lines now. I have 500 rounds of brand new Starline .357 mag brass. I wouldn't mind trimming it since this will be a moonclip gun and can keep track of my brass. I could also play with it with speedloaders while making up my mind. I still think .40 is the way to go, but I'm just so impatient. Sometimes I just piss myself off... I know exactly what you mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical_man Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I will be the first to ask. What is wrong with just leaving the caliber it already is? Lee Case length and reload times if shooting major which is what I want to do with it. .357 mags ain't fast to reload and shooting 175 rounds of them ain't fun either. Plus the ROs get cranky. If you want .40 then do it. You will probably go there envy way, so save the cost of the intermediate step with 38 super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Depending on how short you trim the .357 brass the wall thickness may be so thick that when you seat the bullet the round might bulge enough that it will not go into the cyl. FWIW Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Update: After much deliberation and talking to several really good revo shooters yesterday, I've decided to keep this one minor. I have an extremely nice 5" 625-4 for major (actually it's one of the nicest I've ever seen in any S&W revo). I'll just learn to deal with it's clunckiness. Moonclips and .38LC/.38SC brass are being ordered in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z Sr Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Depending on how short you trim the .357 brass the wall thickness may be so thick that when you seat the bullet the round might bulge enough that it will not go into the cyl. FWIW Richard Good point Richard, I am trimming .38 spec brass to .809" and they work great with 158 Gr. Berrys, but with my Cast 195 Grs. (Lyman mold) they do bulge a tad. A quick run in the "Lee" factory crimp/resize die fixes that. It only seems to be bad with Remington .38 Brass, I use only Federal now and have no problems at all, great load, very accurate and NO recoil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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