PEC-Memphis Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 For those unfamiliar with the "Sevigney Speedway" by Southpaw Customs, here is the modification. The volume between the rear wall of the magazine well and the backstrap is filled with (what appears to be) marine epoxy; then the rear wall of the magazine well is (internally) rounded to provide a larger opening for magazine reloads. Since the IDPA rules for SSP specifically allow: 7. Plastic plugs may be used to fill the opening behind the magazine well. and 5. Reliability work may be done to enhance feeding and ejection. (In this case enhanced feeding/ejection of the magazine) It doesn't seem to be in the excluded modifications: A. Compensators of any type including hybrid or ported barrels. B. Add-on weights for a competitive advantage (this includes, but is not limited to, weighted magazines, tungsten guide rods,brass magazine wells, weighted grips). C. Heavy and/or cone style barrels without a barrel bushing. D. Sights of non-standard configuration (i.e. Ghost rings, Bo-Mar rib, etc.). E. Disconnection or disabling of any safety device on any gun. F. Lights mounted on guns. 1. Externally visible modifications other than grips or sights. (Since the modification is internal to the frame) 2. Robar style grip reduction. 3. Add-on magazine well opening. (Other than the allowed plastic grip plug, material is removed, not added) 4. Guide rods made of a material different from the factory part it replaces. 5. Seattle Slug Grip Plug and similar weighted products. 6. A barrel of another caliber that is not offered in the original factory model. 7. Slide lightening (see “slide, lightening” in glossary for further information). 8. Checkering and stippling. And the modification does not detract from, and only enhances, use as a everyday carry firearm...... Would this modification be legal for SSP, and if not, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock3422 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Probably not legal. If it is a permanent modification to the gun, then it is more than likely not legal for SSP. Internal/external are subjective and that modification is visible without disassembling the gun. External by an objective criteria. Glocks are competitive in ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kct45acp Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 ESP only, simply because it is a permanent modification. Friend of mine in the Memphis area had it done and HQ ruled it ESP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkguy Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 i would guess that its esp because your essentially "adding" a flared mag-well which is prohibited in SSP taken from pg 20 of the IDPA rule book EXCLUDED Modifications (NON-Inclusive list): 1. Externally visible modifications other than grips or sights. 2. Robar style grip reduction. 3. Add-on magazine well opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEC-Memphis Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'm not trying to be argumentative, but.... 1. An "add-on" is not the same as "adding". You can "add" a smoother trigger by removing material. Kinda the same thing here. 2. The rules don't address "permanent" modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 ESP....for now. Sorry, dude. On the bright side, I think this question is activily being looked into by HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Buckeye Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 ESP I just did the mod myself. NC Buckeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 you can read all you want into the rules, but youll get snagged into ESP if you ever shoot the nationals and Curt and Jerry are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Yup. I think that is a real handy Enhancement or Customization but it leaves the gun way away from stock. An inserted plug may be acceptable but casting the arch full of epoxy is not the same thing. There are already too many changes allowed to so-called Stock guns. Pity it has been deemed too much trouble to check trigger pulls a la IPSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm with Jimbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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