KungFuNerd Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have a Miculek coming in the mail. Keep reading comments about how loud they are and how you wouldn't want to be next to some one at the Range using one etc... Does the Comp actually make it louder or does it just project the same loudness to the sides instead of downrange? Just wondering if I were to take my AR to say an Appleseed shoot, am I jerk for using a Comp all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splitime Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Comps definitely change the projection of gases and sound. It is a physical sound/gas dispersion that can be felt. I like my Noveske Pig specifically because of this, it projects it all forward and spares those around me... not compensating though obviously. I definitely don't love standing side by side with people who have aggressive comps... its not awful, but not awesome. Edited February 7, 2012 by splitime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke8401 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have the Miculek. Just wondering if I were to take my AR to say an Appleseed shoot, am I jerk for using a Comp all day? I think that might be a yes. David E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) You don't know obnoxious until you have been on a bench next to me and my Miculek-equipped 7.5" SBR Edited February 7, 2012 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Wow, that has to be nasty! I had one on a 16"carbine and it was too fun for me. A shock wave hit me in the face on every shot. I switched to a Nordic tactical, it is not as bad. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuNerd Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have the Miculek. Just wondering if I were to take my AR to say an Appleseed shoot, am I jerk for using a Comp all day? I think that might be a yes. David E. hah... That's what I really needed to know Of course I get mad at the indoor range when I get stuck next to a guy with a .44 mag with a laser on it shooting at Zombie targets that are 10 feet away. That happened to me...and on a day when I was only shooting .22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvb Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Just wondering if I were to take my AR to say an Appleseed shoot, am I jerk for using a Comp all day? I think that might be a yes. agree. There's lot of folks shooting .22s at those events, and a lot of new (and young and female) folks who may not think the smack in the face is fun. When I went, I built a new top end (had an old un-threaded hbar, bcg, and GI furniture lying around... just had to buy a receiver). -rvb Edited February 7, 2012 by rvb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpom Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Many people say the Battlecomp is one of the least loud and obnoxious comps. No doubt not as flatshooting as the loud ones but much better than a flashhider or going naked. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvb Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 you could always just spend a couple bucks on an A2 flash hider and put that on for the AS. -rvb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuNerd Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 I've already got an A2 comp. Guess I'll hang onto it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Or just leave it off and shoot "naked". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvb Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) I've always wondered about making a "sleeve" to put around a comp that maybe just locks in place with a set screw for these types of situations.... Anyone try anything like that? (or could that start to be considered a silencer??) -rvb Edit: hey, look.... 1000th post! -rvb Edited February 7, 2012 by rvb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I have the Miculek. Just wondering if I were to take my AR to say an Appleseed shoot, am I jerk for using a Comp all day? I think that might be a yes. David E. hah... That's what I really needed to know Of course I get mad at the indoor range when I get stuck next to a guy with a .44 mag with a laser on it shooting at Zombie targets that are 10 feet away. That happened to me...and on a day when I was only shooting .22 Thats funny I just had this happen to me on sunday, I was sighting in my .22 rifle when a guy 2 lanes over was shooting a 200 yard NRA bullseye target 10 yards away with a S&W500... Needless to say IT WASN'T FUN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Sees Target, Try the new Spykes Muzzle break. I tried one and it surprised me. It reduces muzzle rise a lot and felt recoil a little. Over all it is one of the best. And it reduces noise considerably. It is as quiet as the BattleComp yet its more effective in reducing recoil. I compared it to my Titan which I have on one of AR's which is just a dot flatter but a lot noisier. I also compared it to other major ones and when all things were considered it was the best choice. I was very dissapointed in others that I tried that are very popular yet ineffective. These others are just expensive paper weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 You don't know obnoxious until you have been on a bench next to me and my Miculek-equipped 7.5" SBR Yeah, comped SBRs are more obnoxious than my Titan comped AR10. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareyH Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 You don't know obnoxious until you have been on a bench next to me and my Miculek-equipped 7.5" SBR HAHAHAHAHA, I have the same setup and RO's hate it There are some backless buildings we use at a local 3 gun match and as loud as she is to shoot at an open range it 3x worse in a building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark45 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Comps = bad mojo for friends and line shooting like appleseed . For competitions and the backyard shooter they are great. The slap in the face and squeezing of the brain is not fun for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmcc Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I run a JP tank brake and another shooter at our club has a Miculek. The peanut gallery hasn't come to an agreement on which one is more annoying. I wouldn't shoot either one at Appleseed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I've got a running conversation going on a different forum about compensator for .308 bolt action rifles. The muzzle on one of those will jump a couple inches and it makes it real hard to get back on target quickly. Of course, the big problem is, if you are on a firing line with a comp, you will get beaten senseless by everyone around you. One (engineering type) fellow has a video of a clamp on comp he made that works extremely well but it is loud. He's been kicking around some ideas and came up with one device that worked without any increase in noise but he's concerned that he may have actually made something that would be too close to a suppressor for comfort. Anyway, what I think he's messing around with now is something that redirects gas forward and up. That should counteract the muzzle jump without as much increase in noise. As part of all of this discussion, one comp I did look into is the Battle Comp, they claim that its effective without the increased noise. I've actually found a number of comps with similar claims but I have yet to find any proper measurement of actual sound levels. It's mainly just people saying, "It worked pretty good and wasn't much louder than without one." I actually put a Levang compensator on my carbine to reduce lateral noise on the line. It's not much in the compensator department but it does reduce the noise some. I think if someone could make a comp that was just partly as effective as some of the better comps but without all the noise, they would find a good market waiting. Edited February 8, 2012 by Graham Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielW Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 As part of all of this discussion, one comp I did look into is the Battle Comp, they claim that its effective without the increased noise. I've actually found a number of comps with similar claims but I have yet to find any proper measurement of actual sound levels. It's mainly just people saying, "It worked pretty good and wasn't much louder than without one." This is a myth, in my experience. The battle comp is less obnoxious and concussive than many regular comps due to its radial dispersal design....but vs an A2 it is noticeably 'louder'; not too bad from the firers position but certainly off to the sides. Its a compromise comp in terms of effectiveness vs noise and blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I have tried the BattleComp and it gets beat by the new Spyke's muzzle brake in my opinion. They are both about equal in reducing felt recoil. The Spyke's is better in controlling muzzle rise. It should be noted that both of these muzzle brakes have similar design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuNerd Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 I finally used the Miculek today at an outdoor semi public range. I didn't feel obnoxious using it....but then again on one side I had a guy shooting High Power and on the other side an older gentleman shooting Select Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut4a Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Some bite more than others. Some people dislike them more than others. The biggest problem with comps that most people do not think about is the amount of crap they kick up. Shooting in unconvential positions such as under barricades some comps will prove terrible. In dry environments they will kick up huge amounts of dirt and debris which can obscure the target and limit the speed you can engage the target. In wet/muddy settings they almost always seem to spray eye pro/optics with mud. Shooting them in enclosed areas such as cars usually produces a very large amount of dust and glass in the air. While in the open they might be annoying but tolerable to your partners/fellow shooters. You move into confined areas like a structure or hallways and some comps become tooth shakingly unbearable to the point it is no longer annoying but it actually effects those around you. Some comps that do a decent job of not being a blue falcon are those made by sure fire and battle comp. The noveske muzzle device does little for recoil however it redirects all the gas and stuff forward. its nice for sticking through windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Several shooters including myself use the Mikulek comp on Ar15's for 3 gun. the general consensus is if you are the shooter, it's fine if you are not it's rather obnoxious. I usually double plug for three gun. On a related note, I was sighting in my AR10 with factory comp at a bench rest range and after a 5 round string I looked up and a father was telling his son two benches away that it's ok it's supposed to sound like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuNerd Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'll have some one else shoot so I can stand in the next lane and hear what it's like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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