APL-G35 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 That's no good and congrats on your 3 gun pro series status.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) I am another one in the "splits" are no big deal camp...unless they are painfully slow. There was a time when I was suffering from trigger freeze. I worked on developing a neutral grip, I shot a lot of timing drills, and so forth to overcome the problem. As a result I managed to develop some pretty sporty splits. On the close hoser stages it wasn't uncommon to run arrays with .09-.11 splits with .12-.13 the norm (on hoser stuff with my open gun). I don't have an ubber fast split monster video handy, but I did find this old video of some "normal" splits with a single stack. The video includes a make up shot for the mike on the last target. If you listen you can hear all seven pieces of brass hitting the ground well after the last shot is fired. Splits Edited February 3, 2012 by Ron Ankeny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Truly target transitions are far more important than splits but, wicked fast splits are fun! Kinda why I even play the game...it's fun! No use takin this too seriously, as no one gets out alive. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin-ster Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Who cares about splits? The money is made in the transitions. This, I don't worry about splits. I worry about seeing my sights to get good hits and getting my gun to the next target. The best splits I've done is around .13-.14 range, then again my transition is about the same on close targets Second stage is a version of triple nickle That is inspiring to watch-- thanks for sharing! Who cares what your split times are-- the transitions are just as quick. If I closed my eyes and just took in the audio, I wouldn't know that you were engaging an array and not just a single target. Oh, and we should all keep in mind that the gun itself (read: trigger) can make a huge difference for each individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
167 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I dream of sub .20 splits. You guys make me mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichvegas Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I dream of sub .20 splits. You guys make me mad The worst part is that he makes it look easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I've had splits that sounded like a double. I can't do it on command though. The less I think about it, the softer my strong hand grip is, the easier it is to shoot fast. The last "double" I had on a target we actually looked at the timer and it was a .12. I've done with my 2011, 1911 and M&P. You can see the M&P action by watching my Alabama match (youtube link below). Last stage has the fastest split of the match. You'll have to go back a few months to find the Alabama match. I can't access it right now to post a direct link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yeah, .13 - .15 for me at fastest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 HOLY CRAP PAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Best ever at a match? .11 on an end-of-stage hoser target. BJ Norris was running the timer and it sounded fast so we looked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Dude you can totally see your post stage adrenaline crash as you turn and take it all in. Like whew! That was cool. No, that was actually me thinking "what the hell was I doing making up that miss" so long after my last shot. When I did the math it actually cost less than 1 stage point. I was the first shooter on the stage and the RO's style of giving the range commands made me think he was trying to help me out a ULSC, that's what got me looking around. While not faster splits the transatitions with the pistol aren't too bad. Edited February 3, 2012 by TMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I can do .12's with my G34/vanek trigger. I won't be hitting anything except the berm, though. Generally .16 to .20 on most targets. But I'm still slower than the GM's by at least 2 or 3 seconds in a field course w/ movement. They just move more efficiently than I do. I'd be much closer to them by working on transitions/acquisitions/movement rather than working on hitting .11 splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 1911 triggers can do.10 better than Glock triggers can do .10. The tradeoff for a better Glock trigger is slower reset. GM's can do .10's, maybe .12-13 with a Glock. But like that dam engineer says and everybody else says-it is in the transitions. I mean the guns can get faster splits, -there is no limit for the human part, technique and equipment get better. Practice splits are usually faster than matches. I don't know what TGO considers a really fast split, but I would like to know Brian's split on that old 1-2 Steel Challenge win that was a .91 win. VIdeo on here somewhere and in Lenny Magills video-those two shots sound like one shot. I think that was out of leather, too. Patrick the dam engineer has shotgun split times that are faster that a lot of pistol shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermoto Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I rarely run faster than .18-19 splits in a match even on hoser targets. Must have a slow trigger finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 GM's are capable of using the appropriate split for the shot and the acceptable scoring hit they want. The B Class shooter will generally shoot some of the fastest splits on targets on a stage, but generally that is because they don't know what the proper split for them on the particular target is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I hit a .37 one time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I hit a .37 one time Yeah but Ben can you back that up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINMAN44 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I heard Jarrett's splits on average were like .25 but I may have heard incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingchef Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I've learned that I can hit alphas all day long doing .20 splits. When I try to hose, and my splits in the 12s and13s, I get a lot of mikes. The true lesson is not how fast you can pull the tigger, it's how fast can you see the a zone for the second shot. Know your gun and your abilities and splits won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Fastest I've intentionally pulled (ie, when just seeing how fast I could manipulate the trigger) is a .10. I've done that a number of times. In a match, I managed to pull an .08 once. Third stage, last two shots: That was one of those "float the gun, relax the right hand" things, but it wasn't a surprise double or anything. Those were intentional, just happened to be that fast. Edited February 4, 2012 by XRe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I've learned that I can hit alphas all day long doing .20 splits. When I try to hose, and my splits in the 12s and13s, I get a lot of mikes. That's because you're shooting double taps when you do that, not separately aimed shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrawandDuck Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) I try to have my splits be consistently the same to the point you do not notice my target transitions on arrays.... .15-.18 repeatable...in this video the first array is 4 targets staggered close to far. Here is another...skip to the 44 sec mark, the first 35 sec is my deep concentration prep prior to shooting the stage...the last 3 targets were of medium distance... Edited February 4, 2012 by DrawandDuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I feel a lot better about myself now that I realize a lot of you guys are talking about open guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=5zcATnVBzLw This may work, the link is from my mobile. Same TN match. Several stages had some solid splits. 2.20 second into it is my favorite, A zones only showing and my splits were the fastest on those two targets. The key is to know when you can turn it up. More importantly, when you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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