open67 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Just wondering what are your group sizes you're getting with your 9L/PRO. If you could give me the particulars also; bullet wt. type and brand, at what distance, power factor you have it at. Original barrel in my 9L was dismall but S&W was very reponsive and sent me out another one which is different and has made it in the acceptable range for now. Waiting on the Apex configured barrel from Bar-Sto. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg in VA Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 My 9mm Pro shoots groups that are easily measured with a yard stick! At 50 yards with the best load I could find or make, was 18". The load was a 147 gr. JHP....... Point of aim was off the target to get the bullets to hit the target. The worst load would not print all the rounds on a bianchi tombstone target at 50 yds. I to am waiting for the Bar-Sto barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I have a pair of 5" Pros, in 9mm. My original pistol shoots under 2" groups at 25 yards with Zero, 125 grain, jhp, .356, or Hornady, 124 grain, XTPs, using once-fired, Winchester brass, 4 grains of Titegroup, with an OAL of 1.12". My other Pro seems to shoot pretty horrible, 4-5" groups. I think it will be a good candidate for one of the new Bar-Sto barrels! I shot a lot of vv320 last year, and eventhough it feels softer than Titegroup, in my gun, it isn't as accurate. I picked up a pound of Accurate #2 that I'm going to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I shot a lot of vv320 last year, and eventhough it feels softer than Titegroup, in my gun, it isn't as accurate. It's interesting that you would say this. I too had similar results in my guns yet many on this forum want to convince the World that VV N320 is God's gift to the shooting community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 2" at 25 yards form a rest, 147 JHP Zeros, 130 PF. WST or Universal loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I shot a lot of vv320 last year, and eventhough it feels softer than Titegroup, in my gun, it isn't as accurate. It's interesting that you would say this. I too had similar results in my guns yet many on this forum want to convince the World that VV N320 is God's gift to the shooting community. N320 is all I've ever used, and all I ever WILL use. Other people may have different results, but I've never had any problems. I load both a 147MG JHP or a 124MG FMJ, both at 130 PF. While I've never benched the gun, I can shoot freestyle at 45-50 feet and my groups are 1-2 inches, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Never tried to find out what size group i could get, but i can shoot 4 in steel plates all day freestyle at 40 yards. i use 147 gr precision deltas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Shot my first match with it Sunday. Had a lot of misses about 3 to 4" off my POA, high and left. I had previously checked it with 147 handloads and it seemed fine, but shot the match with factory 124 fmjs. Checked it this evening and the sights were in fact off a little bit. 124 grain Fiocchi, 3" 25 yards groups. 147 MG CMJ over 4.1 grains of WSF, 2.5" 25 yard group (was 130 PF in my "G34" Glock). It was very cold and windy and I was shaking in the wind, so I think it might do better when I am not frozen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcrime Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 My shooting buds and I must be lucky. 2 9l's, 1 pro and 2 standards all group very well out to 25 yards. All will hold around 2-3" with most any load-factory blazer, UMC 115 grn, handloads with 124 and 147's loaded with solo and vv320 pf 130-140. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettb Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 5" Pro benched @ 25 yards. Stock barrel: Factory Federal 115gr - 5.620" 147 Precision moly 3.2gr N320 - 5.771" 147 MG CMJ 3.6gr N320 - 4.256" KKM Drop in barrel: Factory Federal 115gr - 4.135" 147 Precision moly 3.2gr N320 - 2.364" 147 MG CMJ 3.6gr N320 (132PF) - 1.876" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathandewalt Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 At 20 yards shooting a 160 gr lead semi wad cutter I can keep them all in a six inch plate standing free hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrel Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 5" Pro benched @ 25 yards. Stock barrel: Factory Federal 115gr - 5.620" 147 Precision moly 3.2gr N320 - 5.771" 147 MG CMJ 3.6gr N320 - 4.256" KKM Drop in barrel: Factory Federal 115gr - 4.135" 147 Precision moly 3.2gr N320 - 2.364" 147 MG CMJ 3.6gr N320 (132PF) - 1.876" What oal are you loading those 147 Precision moly's to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettb Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 5" Pro benched @ 25 yards. Stock barrel: Factory Federal 115gr - 5.620" 147 Precision moly 3.2gr N320 - 5.771" 147 MG CMJ 3.6gr N320 - 4.256" KKM Drop in barrel: Factory Federal 115gr - 4.135" 147 Precision moly 3.2gr N320 - 2.364" 147 MG CMJ 3.6gr N320 (132PF) - 1.876" What oal are you loading those 147 Precision moly's to? 1.115...And the Montana Gold's are at 1.150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSAJ19 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) I have done some trigger work & spring changes to my M&PL9 I was shooting sub 1 second splits into an ICORE/AM1920 target 3" X-ring black dot @ 15m yesterday. Plenty accurate for me. 125/135LRN/3.5AP50(Clays?)1.1oal. @ 132pf. Edited February 7, 2012 by NOSAJ19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin-ster Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I have yet to actually bench the gun for groups, as I simply suck at it. But I shot a 5", 5 shot group off hand at 25 yards this past Saturday-- in a competition, under the timer. I've done notably better just poking around at practice. When the gun came back from the 'smith, he test fired a magazine at an ~8" rock @ ~60 yards, as fast as his GM skills could hit it. A direct quote: "So I guess it prints pretty well?" Load: MG 124 gr JHP 4.1 gr VV N320 (~131 PF) 1.140 OAL Pretty sure I have a fairly tight barrel and chamber; I was making PF with loads that I did not imagine would have the "juice", and I start to get into the rifling at lengths that a lot of folks are able to load to with a cushion. DEFINITELY no unlocking issues, either-- running a worn 15# spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPrimo Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 For me, the KKM drop in barrel made a huge difference. Not that accuracy was poor with the stock barrel (at relatively short ranges) but it is clearly better with the KKM. I can't give you a number because I have never measured a group. I shoot the gun a lot so I am sure my results are better. I don't reload 9mm so I am mostly shooting Federal and WWB 115s. Gun has Dawson adjustable sights and the Apex kit which also help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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