West Texas Granny Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 First put down any preconceived notions and consider the following. A hybrid division that combines Single Stack with the 8 shot revolver. Magazine capacity is 8 rounds to match 8 round moon clips used by revolver. Iron sights only. No fiber. Just notch (black) and post (black). Maybe some holster considerations. ( no speed holsters) Minimum caliber is .357 mag. I'm thinking S&W model 627 Maybe allowing compensators or porting I don't see making major PF as an issue even in a 4 inch barrel as according to my reloading book one can make a PF of 202 out of said 4 inch barrel. Of course thats a max loading and Major PF being 165 that leaves plenty of room to work. ( 14.9 grains of 2400,158 grain bullet@ 1478fps out of a 4 inch barrel a max load data from Lyman 48th reloading manual page 337) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You give up on changing USPSA and start on IDPA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Lets not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You give up on changing USPSA and start on IDPA? Hahahahaha How about a .22 division in idpa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberiad Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'll load 38 all day to 125 but I personally don't want to bother with 357 brass. I've chronoed some 38+P self-defense loads that don't "make major" and I doubt I would enjoy shooting a whole match with them even if they did. I'd rather allow a 627 in SSP at 125PF. Only 1 reload in most stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'd love to race my single action trigger and magazine reloads against a DA trigger and moon clip reloads. Would SS shooters have to spot revolver shooters a class or maybe a few seconds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Lets not. Edited January 29, 2012 by DWFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-charlie Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 No fiber optic sights, but comps and porting?? In IDPA???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hook.... Line..... Sinker.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Texas Granny Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'd love to race my single action trigger and magazine reloads against a DA trigger and moon clip reloads. Would SS shooters have to spot revolver shooters a class or maybe a few seconds? Nope. Just single action trigger and magazine reloads against a DA trigger and moon clip reloads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKSNIPER Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Great idea and I think YOU should carry it to the BOD and ask them to institute it. Edited January 29, 2012 by JKSNIPER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hook.... Line..... Sinker.... Shouldn't this be moved to the humor forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) There is already a division for SS in IDPA. It is called ESP and CDP. Hopefully, .40/10mm will be allowed to compete is CDP once again. I think people should realize that just because a certain handgun exists, there doesn't need to be a place for that handgun to be used in competition. Edited January 29, 2012 by sirveyr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I think people should realize that just because a certain handgun exists, there doesn't need to be a place for that handgun to be used in competition. But there is. It's called I.C.O.R.E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'd love to race my single action trigger and magazine reloads against a DA trigger and moon clip reloads. Would SS shooters have to spot revolver shooters a class or maybe a few seconds? Nope. Just single action trigger and magazine reloads against a DA trigger and moon clip reloads. Yeah let's see how many will sign up for this one Buy a 627 Performance Center V-Comp and now want a place to shoot it? Why not instead of trying to change everything to what you want, got with what is already out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkguy Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 while your thought is intriguing, in no way is would it work in practice. there is aprox a 9-15 second difference between CDP and ESR when comparing classification times. How would you suggest this gap be bridged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 This is the best thread in weeks, maybe months. Thank you WTG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cd662 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 This thread brought a smile to my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z Sr Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Leave it alone, just like in USPSA, leave revo alone. We are a small but happy group. I started ZSA so people could shoot WHATEVER they want (as long as it's safe) in 6, 8, 15 or 24 divisions (max loaded at any one time) so the 7 & 8 shot revos can play in 8 division, Glocks and M&P's can play in 15 or 24, or download and play in 8 if you want reload practice. Leave the standing games(USPSA and IDPA) alone, as they are they are fine. Want a change of pace? Fine, come have some fun with ZSA, that's why it's there, leave IDPA and USPSA as they are, compete within the rules of each, and if you are not good enough, practice more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupie Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 No fiber optic sights, but comps and porting?? In IDPA???? +1 no fiber optic? because that is an advantage to black sights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 At least it would give people another reason not to shoot a revolver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 You give up on changing USPSA and start on IDPA? First thing I thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 There are enough places for people to hide and still get a trophy, i say run what you brung and practice instead of dreaming up new ways to make a division for that fits one gun on the market place. You ever shoot anything 200 PF out of a gun that's even full size? bet you didn't do it much or very long or often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 First put down any preconceived notions and consider the following. A hybrid division that combines Single Stack with the 8 shot revolver. I think that has been done. Search back to the history of leather slap and the southwest pistol league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GForceLizard Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 At least it would give people another reason not to shoot a revolver. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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