Zeek56 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I am in the early stages of a three gun AR build, I have all the parts, except the hand guard. I have looked at the DPMS carbon fiber and the Clark carbon fiber. but I am not real big on using glue to secure the guard. I also have researched the JP series of guards and Lancer. Does anyone have any advice on products they have used. Thanks for the help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sc0 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The JP VTAC is cool but so is the Nordic tube, the JP is actually better IMHO due to fitting the extension to the receiver ensuring a custom fit. I am unsure how the Nordic tube assembles and it requires a custom spanner wrench, but is round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Just finished a build using the Nordic HG and really like it. You don't need a spanner wrench to install it. A wide flat screw driver and a rubber mallet does the trick just fine. Other than how it attaches it's about identical to the JP VTAC, but about 1/2 the price. Edited January 23, 2012 by Shooter115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Samson 15" evolution. Easy to install on exsisting barrel nut. Very secure. Slim. Basically some HG as on Colt's, Stag's, and Adams's rifles. Not very expensive either. This is also the easier FF HG I ever installed. Edited January 23, 2012 by Lead-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 + 1 on the Samson 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtielke Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I got a Samson Evolution at the FNH match and I really like it. It's going the upper I'm building for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I like the JP VTAC best. If you are on a budget, the Yankee Hill Machine customizable ones are good too. They come in a number of lengths including Specter which covers the gas block on a carbine length gas system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark45 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Try the Troy trx. Light weight easy to install and with all the holes you can put in a QD sling attachment. Also noveske is coming out with a set of back up irons set at a 45ish deg angle. Perfect low profile for Tac optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9X23Guy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 You can drill and tap one that would normally use glue. Make sure you use machine screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark45 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I bought the troy 13in for $155 from CTD last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickpony Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I like the carbon fiber handguards that LOKI Weapon Systems sells. They don't glue on, they use allen head flush mounted bolts. They come in different lengths, I use the 15" and 17" and they're sturdy. We've installed a Lancer tube and it didn't seem to be very sturdy. LOKI Weapon Systems also has the Nordic tubes and they're great too. The new JP LE/MIL tube looks really nice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45shooter Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I use the Lancer. Quick and easy attachment very solid and very light. I have been beating on it for awhile with no problems at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 PRI Carbon FIber are excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I built a couple of guns with carbon fiber forends. Won't do it again though. Weight and balance are a trade-off. Light guns are maneuverable as heck, but, for me, they don't settle down quickly when coming up on an array. My first purpose-built 3-Gun AR was built as light as possible. By turning down a heavy barrel and using CF handguards, I was able to get it down to 6.5 lbs. before optic. Recoil was not an issue because I tuned everything with adjustable gas blocks, good compensators, and lightened internals. I found that it just wouldn't settle down on a target, so I decided to start over.... The next one used a PRS stock, standard 18" WOA Designated Marksman barrel, and a 15" Nordic tube. Total weight was 9.5 lbs with an optic. This gun is still relatively maneuverable because it's balanced well, but it settles down so much better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Samson Evolution. I have the 15" on my Colt CR Pro, and a shorter one on my SBR. They come with a couple pieces of rail, and are super simple to install. I had the JP VTAC, and was just a little complicated. The red loctite is a monster to get off if you need to change something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I agree with the Samson 15". I have that on my Stag and it's awesome. The JP is nice but I like the Samson a little better for the fitting part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I have a JP and a Troy TRX. IMO the TRX wins hands down. I really don't like the installation procedure for the JP; it relies heavily on loctite, is way too permanent, and you have to align an additional nut. The TRX is easier to install/remove, thinner, less expensive, and has better sling mounting options (Noveske flush cup mount). Edited January 23, 2012 by Ragnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilkenstein Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Have any of yall used the troy alpha rails? I guess it's the same deal as the trx but uses the factory barrel nut. Sounds like a nice setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek56 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 Thanks to all that responded. I have narrowed it down to the JP and Nordic, more than likely go with the Nordic because of cost, still need the optics. Again thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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