Nuke8401 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 So I have been shooting a Glock 34 for about 8 years. My knowledge of 1911s and 2011s is thin. What are the options for a basic (read low cost/reliable) double stack 9mm for 3 GUN. I shoot with some guys who seem to have made a step increase in their game when switching to a single stack 9mm 1911, IDPA SSP. I'm guessing it's the trigger and the weight. I'm trying to balance the potential gain with the cost. I did some searches but was hoping for some specific recommendations for 3 GUN. Thanks, David E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 There is no such thing as a cheap, reliable, 9mm double stack. Pick any 2 I used a STI eagle for a while then it just sat in the safe so I sold it. I'll be using a CZ SP01 or 75 probably this season. Just couldn't justify keeping the higher end gun around when I didn't shoot 3 gun a lot. If I was a all the time 3 gun shooter I would have kept it for sure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 What is wrong with your 34? There is M&P, CZ, or going with a hi cap Para or STI framed gun or just setting your 34 up for competitions Add weight with tungston guide rod, get a trigger set up from GlockTriggers.com, magwell and shoot it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemoe83 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Lots of top 3 gunners running glock 34 in 3 gun, get some +6 base pads, magwell, and shoot it a lot. Practice, practice, this will do far more for you than a new gun (most likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemoe83 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Oh yeah, +1 on trigger job, or new lighter trigger although that is not necesary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 So I have been shooting a Glock 34 for about 8 years. What are the options for a basic (read low cost/reliable) double stack 9mm for 3 GUN. I've been shooting Glocks for about 20 years and just sold most of them after shooting a tuned M&P and an SVI IC gripped 2011. I came to the conclusion that steel1212 already posted, there are no cheap reliable double stack single action 9mms. If you are willing to go DA/SA or striker fired, then there are a lot of good choices that have been suggested already. Set your price tag, shoot some guns to try them out and take the plunge or tune up the 34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk2 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 My vote would be for a good used STI Eagle or similar. I just sold one for $1250, and it was a great shooter. Very accurate and 100% reliable with a crisp 2 lb trigger. I never could shoot a glock worth a darn, and in my opinion a nice 1911 or 2011 is easier to shoot well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 To be honest there is some distinct advantages to the striker fired guns in 3 gun. The biggest being the ability to abandon the pistol without any manipulation whatsoever. Don't discount this advantage, as the time spent either insuring the safety is on and the abandonment is gentle enough to not disrupt it, or emptying a 1911 type pistol can be significant. I have witnessed more than one competitor snick the safety on, drop the gun in a bucket or drop box, finish the stage only to be DQ'd due to the safety not being on anymore. Play with one a little to decide which pro's and con's of each system are more attractive to you. That being said I love shooting 9mm out of a doublestack gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hax Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I can't really give you too many options as cheap and double stack don't really go together. what I can say though, is that, I've shot plenty of glocks and the feel and point of a 1911 has won me over. With that being said there are many top shooters using glocks. Try out a few different guns and see what you prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddler Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 To be honest there is some distinct advantages to the striker fired guns in 3 gun. The biggest being the ability to abandon the pistol without any manipulation whatsoever. Don't discount this advantage, as the time spent either insuring the safety is on and the abandonment is gentle enough to not disrupt it, or emptying a 1911 type pistol can be significant. I have witnessed more than one competitor snick the safety on, drop the gun in a bucket or drop box, finish the stage only to be DQ'd due to the safety not being on anymore. Play with one a little to decide which pro's and con's of each system are more attractive to you. That being said I love shooting 9mm out of a doublestack gun. He's right about the abandonment issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I went with an M&P 9L just for the abandonment reason. I also shoot the gun in Production, which doesn't allow the one modification that would make it easier to shoot, an overtravel stop in the trigger. The trigger bar still flexes, so isn't optimal. I really don't want to spend the cash for 9MM mags for a 2011, so, I'm going to use a lighter load in my 6" limited pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke8401 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Thanks all, Looks like I'll stick with the Glock. I think with everything else there is to think about in 3 GUN I'll just keep it simple. While its only a single point of info, I did watch Shooting Gallery yesterday, coverage of Lain Harrison (Top Shot winner) shooting the AR15 PRO/AM match. The only thing that gave him more trouble than his race pistol was his race shotgun. Maybe some day when I'm rich. David E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 There is absolutely nothing wrong with simple....as a matter of fact it is more often than not the route that is most effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotLoad Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 +1 with keeping what you are used to shooting. No external safety on a 3 gun pistol could save your match. +6 base pads and a trigger job and you are ready to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Payne Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 A tossed gun can bounce out of an abandonment box, costing you the match. For a 2011 type weapon the time it takes to bring your handgun from the shooting position, down to where it can be abandoned safely (without just tossing it into the box), will allow time to dump the mag and rack out the last round. I prefer to rack the round out of any abandoned weapon rather than dumping the round down range. Watching some of Harrisons runs at the Pro-Am I saw some rounds dumped downrange. I know for an experienced shooter this is safe, but for a newbie starting in the sport, it might not be the best idea. It also looked to take as long dumping the round as it would have just racking it out on the way to the abandonment box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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