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I'm interested in building an STI chambered in 460 Rowland... I figure since most STI barrels can accept longer than SAAMI lenght ammo. Is it possible to have a 45 acp barrel (from Schuemann, KKM, STI, Bar-Sto) fit a 460 Rowland; I mean its only 1/16" longer than your standard 45acp...

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Clark Custom Guns are pretty much the go to folks for .460 Rowland. They have drop in kits with the right springs, barrels, ammo,load data ect. The .460 in a 1911 really needs a comp, both for control and to keep fron beating your pistol to trash. I think Clark has discontinued the ramped barrels for the Rowland. This conversion is not quite as strait forward as it would seem, feeding in a double stack can be a issue. Benny Hill at Triangle Shooting Sports has done a bunch of these pistols. Hell of a package, .44 mag power in a 1911.------------Larry

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Built a 460 three years ago on a 2011 frame Have carried it as bear backup in the mountains and Alaska for 3 yes. Have 500 S&W and 454 Cassul wouldn't carry them again.

My 460 setup can hold 14rds and with the comp I can put all 14 on a charging pig target faster than getting 5 on target with 454. The 500 isn't even close. With big bears lots of lead is what counts. I would build another one without thinking, and I'll always thank Ron Avery for his ideas and imput on the project.

Doc

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JSCHIEFEN:

I have STI 2011 based 460 Rowland too and have sometimes nose dive problem. More info in PM.

Jiri

I have one of these on a Springfield XD Tac 5" 45. I had the same issue using Roland's extra power mag spring but doubling up on the standard magazine springs solved my nosedive issues, might be worth a shot.

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JSCHIEFEN:

I have STI 2011 based 460 Rowland too and have sometimes nose dive problem. More info in PM.

Jiri

I have one of these on a Springfield XD Tac 5" 45. I had the same issue using Roland's extra power mag spring but doubling up on the standard magazine springs solved my nosedive issues, might be worth a shot.

Sorry for late answer.

I am trying to find out 100% reliable combination. I have tried to open a little the feed lips. I installed different followers. I have recoil springs form 17.5 to 26 pounds. The same main springs, from 16 to 30. Also I have square firing pin stop to slow down the slide. Two different recoil buffers too.

I am trying many different bullets:

230 XTP

230 Hornady FMJ FN

185 Speer TMJ FP

200 Sierra FPJ Match

230 S&B FMJ

225 FPBB Ares (coated hard cast bullet)

with Vectan SP2 and Lovex D037.1 powder (Lovex D037.1 is similar to Accurate #7).

Result:

If there are double magazine springs in 140mm magazine, it works 100% whatever springs are in gun. But magazine capacity is reduced to 10.

Any load/spring/buffer/no buffer/different magazine/follower/rounded or square firing pin stop etc. is not 100% reliable. Nose dive or "not full in battery" occurs.

Will try more combinations and will try to fine tune to work with factory 14 rounds magazine.

What a challenge!

Thank you all for help.

And of course, the pistol light will not handle the recoil of 460 and falls apart.

http://www.460rowland.cz

Jiri

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