gpappy Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I have several thousand Berrys 180 gr bullets and getting ready to reload 40 for the first time. Looking for load suggestions for IDPA and USPSA competition. Thinking about minimum power factor for IDPA SSP/ESP and USPSA production and Major for limited 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipper046 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I have several thousand Berrys 180 gr bullets and getting ready to reload 40 for the first time. Looking for load suggestions for IDPA and USPSA competition. Thinking about minimum power factor for IDPA SSP/ESP and USPSA production and Major for limited 10. I run Berry's or Zero brand 180gr bullets. For both I run: 5.5gr's UNIQUE, Winchester Primers (or CCI, or Federal), mixed brass, 1.135" OAL. Shoot great and makes major. Z- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I load 3.5gr of Titegroup behind a 180gr MG bullet at 1.135" for my wife's Production gun. I would imagine that, since Berry's bullets and softer, you might only need 3.2 to 3.3gr of TG to make Minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 3.7gr n320 with a 180 plated is an awesome minor load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKJD Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Clays for Minor, WSF for Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taildraggerdave Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Clays for Minor, WSF for Major. This Take care, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 4.6 grains tight group under a montana gold 180g fmj at 1.126 oal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpappy Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Clays for Minor, WSF for Major. This Take care, Dave Yes, but what load of clays? Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKJD Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) 3.5 Clays with 165 grn plated is what I shoot for minor. Very soft shooting. Download a few 10ths for the 180 and you should be good. Edited January 8, 2012 by AKJD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P. Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 4.3gr of Red Dot with 180gr Bayou Bullet at 1.135 (minor). 5.5gr of Power Pistol with 180gr Missouri Bullets at 1.135 (minor). I use both of these for IDPA out of a Glock 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taildraggerdave Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Clays for Minor, WSF for Major. This Take care, Dave Yes, but what load of clays? Greg You can go all the way down to 2.6gr Clays with a 180gr Bayou and still get 135PF out of it. Also, each .1gr is about 15-20fps (at least in mine). Take care, Dave Edited January 8, 2012 by Taildraggerdave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Clays for Minor, WSF for Major. This Take care, Dave Yes, but what load of clays? Greg 3.1 grains of Clays, with Zero 180 jhp, at 1.135 oal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have 2 loads - one for ESP (IDPA 125000) and one for Limited/Limited 10 (USPSA Major 165). 125000 PF 180gr Frontier CMJ 3.6gr/TiteGroup OAL = 1.115" PF = 149000 This load has a higher PF than I wanted but feels better than the 3.3gr/TiteGroup and PF of 138000. 165 PF 180gr Frontier CMJ 4.3gr/TiteGroup OAL = 1.115" PF = 175 All load fired from my STI Trojan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
427Cobra Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 3.0 Clays 180 Berry gives me 725 fps, soft and accurate out of my G35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAB81 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Clays for Minor, WSF for Major. Clays for Minor, WSF for Major. This Take care, Dave What charge of WSF are you guys running? I have Titegroup & WSF, so I want to load & shoot both to compare. I'm interested to see the difference between 40 Major with TG (4.5gr), and 40 Major with WSF. I guess I should include that it's for a G35 using 180gr Zero JHP's & WSP primers. I'll use Hodgdon's data for my workups, I'm just curious what your charges are. They show a minimum load of 5.4gr @ 1.125 makes about 170pf, but ofcourse that won't necessarily be what my chrono shows. Edited January 13, 2012 by MEAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 What charge of WSF are you guys running? I haven't shot 40 Major with WSF in a long while but, if I remember correctly, I needed 5.2gr of WSF behind a 180gr bullet loaded to 1.185" to make PF out of a 5" barrel. WSF is a very accurate powder but, because it has a slower burn rate than TG, it's recoil impulse is more noticeable at the same PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAB81 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) What charge of WSF are you guys running? I haven't shot 40 Major with WSF in a long while but, if I remember correctly, I needed 5.2gr of WSF behind a 180gr bullet loaded to 1.185" to make PF out of a 5" barrel. WSF is a very accurate powder but, because it has a slower burn rate than TG, it's recoil impulse is more noticeable at the same PF. Thanks man. I have to load them a little shorter (1.135ish), so that will probably change things a little. I'm really curious whether I personally will be able to notice a huge difference between the 2 powders. I've loaded 10mm with W231 & Longshot, and I can can definitely feel a difference. But that was a 180gr JHP @ 950fps vs 1350fps, so it's not really apples to apples. . Edited January 13, 2012 by MEAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm really curious whether I personally will be able to notice a huge difference between the 2 powders. I believe you will be able to tell the difference when shooting them side-by-side but don't let this be a deal-breaker. Choose your powder based both on accuracy and how well the firearm recoils in your hands. There are a lot of people on this forum that swear by the 147gr bullets for 9mm Minor. I tried them and I felt that the slide was moving too sluggish for my taste. I have since switched to shooting 124gr bullets and I like the recoil impulse of those much better. I have had other people shoot my pistol and my load and say that it is too snappy for their taste but it works for me! The same applies to you in your search for the "perfect" powder... Try a few different ones and find which one works best for you. Once you have found one that meets your requirements, stop messing with your pistol's load! Just stick with what works for your particular shooting style and don't change anything. The less variables you have to deal with, the sooner you will learn to drive that gun as an extension of your arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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