Langenator Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Is there any difference, or just different names for the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Is there any difference, or just different names for the same thing? Just two ways to describe the same division. The father of He-Man Captain Eddie Rhodes (RIP) employed the term He-Man, it is my fault that Heavy Metal came into use as I coined that term in an article I penned several years ago. I will state that it ought to be ONE Division! 20 round 308 Iron or 1x Optic 12 Gauge PUMP Any 10 round 45ACP. Patrick Edited January 5, 2012 by P.E. Kelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benelli Chick Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 It began as He-Man at Rocky Mountain 3-Gun. In my opinion, other matches changed the name to Heavy Metal to be more politically correct. But true Heavy Metal is .308 and .45. Some matches, like Superstition allow a semi-auto shotgun in Heavy Metal Scope. He-Man is .308, .45 and pump shotgun! There's a "Heavy Tactical" but if I say that too loud, JJ will start ranting. Usually, heavy tactical just means ,308 and you can shoot a 9mm and a semi auto. That got started at DPMS's match...I think Randy wanted to sell more .308's when they started producing more of them, and there were people who wanted to shoot a big rifle, but didn't want to shoot the .45 or the pump. (JJ feels that this is a silly division and has fragmented .308 shooters to the point of nearly killing true He-Man!) But, if you like shooting true He-Man...check out the He-Man National Championship June 2-3 at the NRA Whittington Center in Raton, NM! http://home.earthlink.net/~johnson3gun/ In general, He-Man and True Heavy Metal have the same equipment...just the name has been changed...just 'cause. Denise (I would have been happy to be top Lady He-Man...but, the guns are too big and heavy for me. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) In He-Man, the cod piece is mandatory. At least that's what Denise told me when I considered shooting Rocky Mountain....which is why I stick w/ Heavy Metal matches.... Edited January 5, 2012 by Bryan 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=VILLAMOR=- Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 In He-Man, the cod piece is mandatory. At least that's what Denise told me when I considered shooting Rocky Mountain....which is why I stick w/ Heavy Metal matches.... If I only knew how to super-impose other photos (including of you) into the He-Man photo...oh what fun I could have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 In He-Man, the cod piece is mandatory. At least that's what Denise told me when I considered shooting Rocky Mountain....which is why I stick w/ Heavy Metal matches.... If I only knew how to super-impose other photos (including of you) into the He-Man photo...oh what fun I could have. The smile is the same , but the hair is a different color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Bryan, Thats just..... WRONG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langenator Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 So is there a requirement to raise the rifle over your head and say "By the power of .30 cal?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark45 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I shoot 308 just enuf to compensate for my inadequate stature as a man... "What give me back my phone woman...". Sorry Yall she stole my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langenator Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 I shoot 308 just enuf to compensate for my inadequate stature as a man... "What give me back my phone woman...". Sorry Yall she stole my phone. And here I thought it was because you loved your single stack .45 so much and didn't want to play with the plastic fantastic 9mms and their bottomless magazines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark45 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Perhaps I just like the way my metal gun sounds sliding on the table. O and my single stack holds just as much ammo as a 9mm. 230gr pills just make it happen twice as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmdCtzn Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I thought there were some matches that had a He-Man division which required you to carry all of your gear on your person at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I thought there were some matches that had a He-Man division which required you to carry all of your gear on your person at all times. That's the Trooper division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmdCtzn Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I thought there were some matches that had a He-Man division which required you to carry all of your gear on your person at all times. That's the Trooper division. I knew that. Many things I know get buried so deeply in my crowded brain that my conscious mind is temporarily unable to find them, and other things just fall completely out when it gets too crowded. Its a mess up there, and getting worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark45 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Friggen DRAGONS in the kitchen. My thoughts sometimes... Pizza is good. Mnt Dew is the best soda ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandrum Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 In He-Man, the cod piece is mandatory. At least that's what Denise told me when I considered shooting Rocky Mountain....which is why I stick w/ Heavy Metal matches.... The cod piece is exactly why I would want to shoot He-Man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langenator Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Friggen DRAGONS in the kitchen. My thoughts sometimes... Pizza is good. Mnt Dew is the best soda ever. That's not a dragon. You just need to check the gas valve on your stove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langenator Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 It began as He-Man at Rocky Mountain 3-Gun. In my opinion, other matches changed the name to Heavy Metal to be more politically correct. But true Heavy Metal is .308 and .45. Some matches, like Superstition allow a semi-auto shotgun in Heavy Metal Scope. He-Man is .308, .45 and pump shotgun! There's a "Heavy Tactical" but if I say that too loud, JJ will start ranting. Usually, heavy tactical just means ,308 and you can shoot a 9mm and a semi auto. That got started at DPMS's match...I think Randy wanted to sell more .308's when they started producing more of them, and there were people who wanted to shoot a big rifle, but didn't want to shoot the .45 or the pump. (JJ feels that this is a silly division and has fragmented .308 shooters to the point of nearly killing true He-Man!) But, if you like shooting true He-Man...check out the He-Man National Championship June 2-3 at the NRA Whittington Center in Raton, NM! http://home.earthlink.net/~johnson3gun/ In general, He-Man and True Heavy Metal have the same equipment...just the name has been changed...just 'cause. Denise (I would have been happy to be top Lady He-Man...but, the guns are too big and heavy for me. ) I came back to revisit this thread after LaRue (I competed in WWII Division, because I'm a super masochist working on a history degree). I re-read the rules and was shocked to discovered that the LaRue folks actually commit three heresies in what they call "Tactical-Heavy" 1).45 pistol not required 2) Pump shotgun not required 3) The shotgun isn't even required to be 12 gauge. I may send Sheldon a message (once he's had a chance to decompress) asking if'n he would consider upgrading to full He-Man next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 What kinda of rules they have in the WW2 division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The orriginal He-Man rules stated a .308 (7.62X51mm) caliber rifle or bigger, a 10 round .45 (could be any .45) and a 12 gage shotgun (NOTICE: NO WHERE DID IT SAY PUMP). After the first year everyone that was shooting the division came to us and said they wanted it to be a "pump shotgun". Since those guys were the ones activly shooting the division I went ahead and changed it to pump shotgun for the 2003 RM3G. In retrospect, I wish I never had, as after allowing that one little change, it became the most common division to have it's rules "messed around with" by everyone and his dog when it came to matches. I have changed it back to the orriginal rules for the Oklahoma City Gun Club Matches, and if we ever do a State match those will be the He-Man rules in effect. I would also like to point out that OKCGC 3-gun has been the inovater of several really good rules like the 1X optic in Limited, which was picked up by USPSA and other matches, and Magazine fed shotguns in "tactical" divisions as long as they meet the rules of that division. I can also state that we will never shoot at L.P. record jacket type targets ( Little dig at My amigo Jesse ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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