grkmec Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I want to order a custom 3-gun rifle from JP. Would appreciate any tips / advice from people here that have them. Here is what I had in mind: SCR-11 with 16" light contour, mid-length (I want the gun to be light and matches up in the Northeast don't have many shots past 300 yards) Small profile comp Handguard - do you guys know exact lengths of mid, rifle or extra long? Also what is LE-M rifle option? With a 16" barrel, midlength, I assume rifle will just cover gas block? With the extra long rail, will your weak hand get blasted by the comp if grip placement is at the very end? Suggestions? Heat Sink - how much does it weigh? Is it just flashy to have or does it really do much if you are only shooting a 30-40 round stage? Low Mass vs. Full Mass - help me decide Trigger - I want 3# competition. Is it single or 2-stage? Stock - ACE-ARFX Grip - Hogue Finally, can you guys give me a quick comparison of SCR-11, PSC-11, JP-15 and CTR-2? Which one do I want? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 18" Ex long hand guard Heat sink Low mass 3lb trigger Jp15 I wouldn't change a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Small comp for tac opt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esskay Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If you get a 16" mid gas: Mid tube will expose the gas block (9") Rifle tube will cover the gas block and some more (12") Extra long will extend basically just about to where the muzzle brake starts (15") I run a JP 16" mid with light BCG and buffer. It shoots pretty flat and soft, but an 18" rifle gas is noticeably flatter and softer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 18" Ex long hand guard Heat sink Low mass 3lb trigger Jp15 I wouldn't change a thing Heatsink probably isnt worth the money, but other than that this looks right. Go with the 18, even if you normally shoot shorter ranges. Get the XL tube, even if you go with the 16" barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I have an 18" JP SCR-11 with the rifle length gas system and the longer hand guards, but opted not to have the heatsink. SOME shooters have told me that the aluminum on stainless has caused POI shifts at distance due to apparent pressures being exerted on the barrel. I haven't had any negative effects running my JP without the heat sinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMc Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I have a CTR 02 and i can't imagine anything being better. Flattest, softest AR, that I have ever shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Schmitt Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Go with the 18". You won't notice the extra 2. Even with the heat sink it will still be one of the lightest rifles on the front end. It will be very well balanced. Consider, your training to determine if you want the sidecharger. I have muscle memory built to go directly to the T handle, it is something to consider. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Love JP; great stuff, but i cant remember the last time i saw a JP rifle with the sink. Ditch the sink, throw on a benny comp, and youre gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) I want to order a custom 3-gun rifle from JP. Would appreciate any tips / advice from people here that have them. Here is what I had in mind: SCR-11 with 16" light contour, mid-length (I want the gun to be light and matches up in the Northeast don't have many shots past 300 yards) Small profile comp Handguard - do you guys know exact lengths of mid, rifle or extra long? Also what is LE-M rifle option? With a 16" barrel, midlength, I assume rifle will just cover gas block? With the extra long rail, will your weak hand get blasted by the comp if grip placement is at the very end? Suggestions? Heat Sink - how much does it weigh? Is it just flashy to have or does it really do much if you are only shooting a 30-40 round stage? Low Mass vs. Full Mass - help me decide Trigger - I want 3# competition. Is it single or 2-stage? Stock - ACE-ARFX Grip - Hogue Finally, can you guys give me a quick comparison of SCR-11, PSC-11, JP-15 and CTR-2? Which one do I want? Thanks SCR, is A CTR with a side charging handle instead of a traditional Charging handle, not needed (although could be handy but requires practice) PSC, Upper reciever that has both a side charging handle and traditional charging handle, mated to a JP-15 lower. CTR, Billet Upper and Lower. JP's flagship for Competition rifles. JP-15, Forged Upper and lower, more traditional AR-15 look. Go with the 18inch Mid contour or Light Contour Barrel. JP triggers are 1 stage, but that's all you need really. Go Low mass. Heat sink is a big NO. XL hand gaurds are nice but not needed, but all my rifles run a 15"+ handgaurd. If your looking for the "lightest" setup go with the JP-15, it will also cost you $700 less then the SCR. Out the door, with XL Handguard and the other options you wanted(minus the heatsink) that you posted + a 18inch barrel, a JP-15 will run you over $2000, Can't beat that with a stick. Edited January 4, 2012 by DocMedic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grkmec Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 I want to order a custom 3-gun rifle from JP. Would appreciate any tips / advice from people here that have them. Here is what I had in mind: SCR-11 with 16" light contour, mid-length (I want the gun to be light and matches up in the Northeast don't have many shots past 300 yards) Small profile comp Handguard - do you guys know exact lengths of mid, rifle or extra long? Also what is LE-M rifle option? With a 16" barrel, midlength, I assume rifle will just cover gas block? With the extra long rail, will your weak hand get blasted by the comp if grip placement is at the very end? Suggestions? Heat Sink - how much does it weigh? Is it just flashy to have or does it really do much if you are only shooting a 30-40 round stage? Low Mass vs. Full Mass - help me decide Trigger - I want 3# competition. Is it single or 2-stage? Stock - ACE-ARFX Grip - Hogue Finally, can you guys give me a quick comparison of SCR-11, PSC-11, JP-15 and CTR-2? Which one do I want? Thanks SCR, is A CTR with a side charging handle instead of a traditional Charging handle, not needed (although could be handy but requires practice) PSC, Upper reciever that has both a side charging handle and traditional charging handle, mated to a JP-15 lower. CTR, Billet Upper and Lower. JP's flagship for Competition rifles. JP-15, Forged Upper and lower, more traditional AR-15 look. Go with the 18inch Mid contour or Light Contour Barrel. JP triggers are 1 stage, but that's all you need really. Go Low mass. Heat sink is a big NO. XL hand gaurds are nice but not needed, but all my rifles run a 15"+ handgaurd. If your looking for the "lightest" setup go with the JP-15, it will also cost you $700 less then the SCR. Out the door, with XL Handguard and the other options you wanted(minus the heatsink) that you posted + a 18inch barrel, a JP-15 will run you over $2000, Can't beat that with a stick. Thanks, that is very helpful. Can you quantity weight savings between forged and billet construction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Clayton Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 18" Ex long hand guard Heat sink Low mass 3lb trigger Jp15 I wouldn't change a thing Couldn't agree more. This is exactly my setup as well and the balance is absolutely superb - the muzzle simply does not move when you shoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Love JP; great stuff, but i cant remember the last time i saw a JP rifle with the sink. Ditch the sink, throw on a benny comp, and youre gold. I have a sink, I'll send you a picture Mike! Seiichi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbletap_ed Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I want to order a custom 3-gun rifle from JP. Would appreciate any tips / advice from people here that have them. Here is what I had in mind: SCR-11 with 16" light contour, mid-length (I want the gun to be light and matches up in the Northeast don't have many shots past 300 yards) Small profile comp Handguard - do you guys know exact lengths of mid, rifle or extra long? Also what is LE-M rifle option? With a 16" barrel, midlength, I assume rifle will just cover gas block? With the extra long rail, will your weak hand get blasted by the comp if grip placement is at the very end? Suggestions? Heat Sink - how much does it weigh? Is it just flashy to have or does it really do much if you are only shooting a 30-40 round stage? Low Mass vs. Full Mass - help me decide Trigger - I want 3# competition. Is it single or 2-stage? Stock - ACE-ARFX Grip - Hogue Finally, can you guys give me a quick comparison of SCR-11, PSC-11, JP-15 and CTR-2? Which one do I want? Thanks SCR, is A CTR with a side charging handle instead of a traditional Charging handle, not needed (although could be handy but requires practice) PSC, Upper reciever that has both a side charging handle and traditional charging handle, mated to a JP-15 lower. CTR, Billet Upper and Lower. JP's flagship for Competition rifles. JP-15, Forged Upper and lower, more traditional AR-15 look. Go with the 18inch Mid contour or Light Contour Barrel. JP triggers are 1 stage, but that's all you need really. Go Low mass. Heat sink is a big NO. XL hand gaurds are nice but not needed, but all my rifles run a 15"+ handgaurd. If your looking for the "lightest" setup go with the JP-15, it will also cost you $700 less then the SCR. Out the door, with XL Handguard and the other options you wanted(minus the heatsink) that you posted + a 18inch barrel, a JP-15 will run you over $2000, Can't beat that with a stick. Why no to the heat sink? I ask because I have a rifle on order and I included it. Guess I should have searched first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Why no to the heat sink? I ask because I have a rifle on order and I included it. Guess I should have searched first. +1 I have the same question. I was talking to the staff at JP today and the recommendation of th eheat sink came up. I was asking about an 18" light contour barrel for either an SCR-11 or a PSC-11 Upper. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Payne Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I am a big fan of the heat sink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I want to order a custom 3-gun rifle from JP. Would appreciate any tips / advice from people here that have them. Here is what I had in mind: SCR-11 with 16" light contour, mid-length (I want the gun to be light and matches up in the Northeast don't have many shots past 300 yards) Small profile comp Handguard - do you guys know exact lengths of mid, rifle or extra long? Also what is LE-M rifle option? With a 16" barrel, midlength, I assume rifle will just cover gas block? With the extra long rail, will your weak hand get blasted by the comp if grip placement is at the very end? Suggestions? Heat Sink - how much does it weigh? Is it just flashy to have or does it really do much if you are only shooting a 30-40 round stage? Low Mass vs. Full Mass - help me decide Trigger - I want 3# competition. Is it single or 2-stage? Stock - ACE-ARFX Grip - Hogue Finally, can you guys give me a quick comparison of SCR-11, PSC-11, JP-15 and CTR-2? Which one do I want? Thanks SCR, is A CTR with a side charging handle instead of a traditional Charging handle, not needed (although could be handy but requires practice) PSC, Upper reciever that has both a side charging handle and traditional charging handle, mated to a JP-15 lower. CTR, Billet Upper and Lower. JP's flagship for Competition rifles. JP-15, Forged Upper and lower, more traditional AR-15 look. Go with the 18inch Mid contour or Light Contour Barrel. JP triggers are 1 stage, but that's all you need really. Go Low mass. Heat sink is a big NO. XL hand gaurds are nice but not needed, but all my rifles run a 15"+ handgaurd. If your looking for the "lightest" setup go with the JP-15, it will also cost you $700 less then the SCR. Out the door, with XL Handguard and the other options you wanted(minus the heatsink) that you posted + a 18inch barrel, a JP-15 will run you over $2000, Can't beat that with a stick. Why no to the heat sink? I ask because I have a rifle on order and I included it. Guess I should have searched first. Just not a fan of it. Adds unneeded weight, changes barrel harmonics (Not in a "bad" way but dont like it), bolts on to the barrel (one more thing that can come loose during a match) and cost money that I could use for ammo, I'm pretty sure there are better shooters then I that do use them, but I promise u there are many more that whip me that don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickeyT Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I went to one Of the local shops that sells JP rifles and the guy behind the counter said he hated the hand guard on them and claimed they got too hot... ? anyone confirm or deny...? Is this one of the reasons that some choose to not use the heat sink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rep70 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I went to one Of the local shops that sells JP rifles and the guy behind the counter said he hated the hand guard on them and claimed they got too hot... ? anyone confirm or deny...? Is this one of the reasons that some choose to not use the heat sink? Have shot mine with and without heat sink. Not worth the extra weight in my opinion. As far as the hand guard getting to hot I have never had a problem with that. Is the guy behind the counter doing mag dumps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu46and2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Here you go, in stock and ready to ship. This rifle is 3-gun ready and extremely accurate. - all is need is an optic. You buy this and you don't have to wait for JP, this one can ship tomorrow. http://www.selectarms.com/p-46043-complete-jp-15-rifle.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickeyT Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Im not sure exactly He just saw me looking at it and said that if I was set on the jp rifle that I should get rails to keep my hand cooler... Im assuming he was shooting quite a bit considering i havent seen anyone else say that... And Blu46 thanks but I really want the side charging handle so im looking at the PSC-11 or SCR-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rep70 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Im not sure exactly He just saw me looking at it and said that if I was set on the jp rifle that I should get rails to keep my hand cooler... Im assuming he was shooting quite a bit considering i havent seen anyone else say that... And Blu46 thanks but I really want the side charging handle so im looking at the PSC-11 or SCR-11 I see a lot of JP hand guards, in 3 gun. Most of the guys shoot them a lot more than the average gun shop guy behind the counter. I wouldn't worry about using the JP hand guard. I love my SCR -11 great rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickeyT Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thats what I was thinking. Even people who dont have JP rifles buy their hand guards.... quick question for you rep70. What made you decide to buy the scr-11 rather than the psc-11? Other then the lower/ lower mag well their pretty similar and the psc is around 400 cheaper...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Small comp for tac opt You can use the large comp just not the Tank brake. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rep70 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Thats what I was thinking. Even people who dont have JP rifles buy their hand guards.... quick question for you rep70. What made you decide to buy the scr-11 rather than the psc-11? Other then the lower/ lower mag well their pretty similar and the psc is around 400 cheaper...? I just liked the looks of the SCR -11 like you said not a huge difference other than aesthetics. It was a rifle I wanted for awhile so decided to get it just the way I wanted. You would be good to go with either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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