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4.7 grs with a Missouri Bullet 200 gr LSWC goes 908fps for me out of a Taurus PT1911.

:surprise:

Wow. That sure seems like a lot of Clays.

No pressure signs?

.45 is a low pressure load. You'll find lots of folks running 4.6-4.8 gr Clays in .45 to make major.

BB

Thank you for your insights.

For most folks, 4.2-4.3 under 200grn makes major (200grn at 900fps makes major plus a healthy buffer). To add to that, Clays tends to be a spiky powder at and beyond max.

So 4.7 seems a little energetic.

I've loaded a pretty good amount of Clays, but almost exclusively under 230.

Just as a data point, should I later want to load 200s, I'd like to know if Steve RA has seen any pressure signs.

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4.7 grs with a Missouri Bullet 200 gr LSWC goes 908fps for me out of a Taurus PT1911.

:surprise:

Wow. That sure seems like a lot of Clays.

No pressure signs?

.45 is a low pressure load. You'll find lots of folks running 4.6-4.8 gr Clays in .45 to make major.

BB

Thank you for your insights.

For most folks, 4.2-4.3 under 200grn makes major (200grn at 900fps makes major plus a healthy buffer). To add to that, Clays tends to be a spiky powder at and beyond max.

So 4.7 seems a little energetic.

I've loaded a pretty good amount of Clays, but almost exclusively under 230.

Just as a data point, should I later want to load 200s, I'd like to know if Steve RA has seen any pressure signs.

I run the same load and have seen zero pressure signs. I've also looked at my chrono data from working up the load, and the data's pretty linear.

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4.7 grs with a Missouri Bullet 200 gr LSWC goes 908fps for me out of a Taurus PT1911.

:surprise:

Wow. That sure seems like a lot of Clays.

No pressure signs?

.45 is a low pressure load. You'll find lots of folks running 4.6-4.8 gr Clays in .45 to make major.

BB

Thank you for your insights.

For most folks, 4.2-4.3 under 200grn makes major (200grn at 900fps makes major plus a healthy buffer). To add to that, Clays tends to be a spiky powder at and beyond max.

So 4.7 seems a little energetic.

I've loaded a pretty good amount of Clays, but almost exclusively under 230.

Just as a data point, should I later want to load 200s, I'd like to know if Steve RA has seen any pressure signs.

I run the same load and have seen zero pressure signs. I've also looked at my chrono data from working up the load, and the data's pretty linear.

Thnx.

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No pressure signs and the velocity seems pretty linear for me also. See attached. These were shot off a rest and the reason for the 3/4 groups is that several gunwriters/editors say that the best 3 of a 5 shot group shot by hand will equal a group of 5 out of a Ransome Rest. I've got one and it seems to be a pretty accurate theory. Velocities were taken using the 5" Taurus PT1911, not the Commander.

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I'm with mike I M. I ran the same load w/ 230 gr Berry's and made 172 PF in my 4" 625 at last fall's Florida State match. Only maintenance getting ready for second day shooting was a silicone cloth wipe down on Saturday nite 'cause purty guns choot better! It's my standard match load. :cheers:

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Never heard the Spiky comment before...

I'm new to reloading and pretty much have settled on a 3.8 load of clays with 230 lead for USPSA..In an STI Spartan 1911.. 16 lb hammer spring

A Dillon 650... and I noticed I get about 740-750 on the chrono to 170-175 PF

RT

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Just got back from chrono and my 3.8 of clays loaded at 1.250 was running 751-800 fps.

I recently tested the same load - 3.8 gr. of Clays, 1.250 OAL, 0.4705 crimp, Hornady 230 gr. FMJ-RN bullets, CCI 300 primers.

Shooting a full size Kimber I got an average of 663 FPS with a sample of 23 rounds.

It was an overcast day - I didn't need to use the diffuser screens on my ProChrono Digital.

The chrono was 15 feet away from the muzzle.

Any idea why such a significant difference in velocity compared to what jailer saw with essentially the same load?

Tom

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About 4 months ago I went to clays to load some light 155gr 45 acp loads for my Vaquero. 4 Gr of Clays with a 155 gr bullet recoils like a .38 wadcutter.

It worked so well, accurate and clean, that I decided to try some for my 1911. My first attempt was 4.0 gr with a 200gr SWC from Precision Bullets. Its shooting great and runs well with my 9# recoil spring. The load has been very accurate and reliable so far.

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